Oh, okay, but when we do that it's "only one player can be out of play for a corner". Jesus Christ. We have to be on our very best behavior and (mostly) everyone else is allowed to run rampant
They probably could, but like I said, they refuse to spend more than 2 milliseconds looking at an angle where you can actually see the ball, they just watched the player occlude the ball the entire time, shrug and say "I guess it's in"
That's becoming a painfully frequent concern from many when it comes to him. I know he's always been stronger getting forward. But his defensive skills are alarmingly bad, and apparently getting worse.
I don't think it's fair to say his defensive skills are getting worse, but that the opposition are increasingly targeting him as a weak point in our defense
No one was dropping back and making runs inward for a cross. Only person who tried was ESR and that happened once. There weren't that many combination passes in and around the box. We were eager to shoot a weak shot than wait for a better opportunity.
because we're threats to City, and UAE pays them to go ref in exhibition matches. Honestly wouldn't be surprised if even Chelsea would be subject to this if they were up here.
Reiss, ESR, Zinny & Eddie are on notice. If I were Arteta, I would get rid of them in the summer transfer window. As much as I like em, they're either injury prone and or play in a boom and bust cycle. We need a dependable 9, 8 and LB/LCB combo player.
Reiss, ESR and Eddie came into a game state that never should have existed. I agree that Eddie doesn't have a place if he can't find some consistency, and ESR needs to do more to prove that his one excellent season wasn't just a flash in the pan, but this game was absolutely not it.
The three of them seemed to actually want to win the game, unlike the starting 11 in the first half. Despite all the "control" we had, we looked like passengers in our own ground. If anything, this game is a reason for any one of martinelli, Gabriel Jesus, zinchenko, even Ben white to spend some serious time back on the bench. Fuck, Declan rice this game played well but had some serious stinkers of passes.
No credit taken from west ham but our players lost this game, and it definitely wasn't the subs. If the game was 0-0 or 1-0 our way and the subs did exactly the same thing we would be praising them for staying on the front foot and having some good opportunities.
Possibly one of Odegaards best performances in an Arsenal shirt and possibly one of Jesus' worst.
I agree with you in the positions that need addressing. I have faith that this hasn't just been a purple patch for Kai and he will make the 8 his own. I think in the absence of a number 9 who can bag them, our wingers, particularly martinelli, need to figure out where they put their goalscoring boots.
Left back is a tough one. We're stacked but they're all injured. I think Zinchenko & Timber will end up being more than enough, as long as Timbers injury was just bad luck and not something that becomes ongoing.
133 Comments
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
I am furious and I hate everything
hangonasecond@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
The height Kai and Tomi bring would absolutely change this game for us
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Plus the ability to change the gameplan. West Ham have their targets and they're still on the pitch.
WorldcupCSR@arsenalfc.social · 1 pts · 2y
@sensiblepuffin @hangonasecond maybe this is strategic so show to Stan that we need some more players.
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
Oh, okay, but when we do that it's "only one player can be out of play for a corner". Jesus Christ. We have to be on our very best behavior and (mostly) everyone else is allowed to run rampant
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Let's play "did it go out" again!
hangonasecond@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
You see this time it was in because it is against us
hangonasecond@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Looks pretty in to me
hangonasecond@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Actually I change my mind that looks out on the second angle but VAR probably can't overrule it...
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
They probably could, but like I said, they refuse to spend more than 2 milliseconds looking at an angle where you can actually see the ball, they just watched the player occlude the ball the entire time, shrug and say "I guess it's in"
raumdeuter@arsenalfc.social · 1 pts · 2y
FFS this again
coygsu@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Zinny needs to wake up
hangonasecond@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
So does Trossard
ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
That's becoming a painfully frequent concern from many when it comes to him. I know he's always been stronger getting forward. But his defensive skills are alarmingly bad, and apparently getting worse.
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
I don't think it's fair to say his defensive skills are getting worse, but that the opposition are increasingly targeting him as a weak point in our defense
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
lol this is the part of FM where you realize the match engine actually wants you to lose
hangonasecond@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Take heart, friends. The shit are down 4-0.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
You jinxed it lol. Still fine but :P
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Dangit. I need Son to score for some FPL points.
hangonasecond@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Maybe not fine.. 2 goals in 5 minutes..
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Surely can't bottle a 4-0 lead
WorldcupCSR@arsenalfc.social · 1 pts · 2y
@Astrealix @hangonasecond don’t know anyone who’s done that 🙄🙄
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
5 million cameras and none able to see the ball
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Jesus that is a flying tackle
WorldcupCSR@arsenalfc.social · 1 pts · 2y
@sensiblepuffin @Astrealix we need to stop playing cute stuff and take some shots
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
no pen shrug :)
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Why should we get pens? We don't deserve them, apparently
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
ARE YOU ACTUALLY KIDDING ME
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
It's a goal straight out of FIFA that would make me restart the match.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Watching now, I see we have the exact same problem as the Newcastle game. Ffs can they just make the rules better or something
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Change the rules or make the tech available to officiate the rules
raumdeuter@arsenalfc.social · 2 pts · 2y
I agree with gunnerblog (I think) that the expectations brought about by VAR make decisions like these harder to take.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Yeah, I don't think it's the fault of anyone on the pitch or in the VAR room that they're not sure; it's a structural problem.
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
2.11 xG to 0.69 xG. Football is dying and West Ham killed it.
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
So many half-baked passes. What's happened to our mentality?
hangonasecond@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Is anyone else whose account is on lemmy.world having issues? This week has been awful for me and I don't know if it's the servers or my app or what.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Yeah, I assumed it was holiday internet tho lol
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
I'm genuinely looking forward to Arteta saying that everyone had the shits or something because I don't understand why no one seems to care today
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Maybe it's because we never get free kicks, but these cutesy routines irk me
WorldcupCSR@arsenalfc.social · 2 pts · 2y
@sensiblepuffin @Astrealix also Trossard not able to get past the first man on his corners is super annoying
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Yeah, Trossard has been a disappointment in the league. Especially since his pre-season was so exciting
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Man we are just not on it today. Can we WAKE THE FUCK UP PLEASE
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
What's a referee even for in this game, lol
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
To book Saka for diving
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
STOP PINGING IT AROUND AND TAKE A SHOT CHRIST
WorldcupCSR@arsenalfc.social · 1 pts · 2y
@sensiblepuffin @Astrealix i really hope we win this game so that No call on the ball going out of play is a non factor
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Nowadays I have that thought every day, "I hope we win, otherwise Arteta's getting another FA charge"
WorldcupCSR@arsenalfc.social · 1 pts · 2y
@sensiblepuffin @Astrealix exactly
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
holy shit declan rice not bad
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
We need to hire 14 year old Fortnite zoomers to run VAR
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
IS OUR ENTIRE TEAM TAKING THE PISS?
coygsu@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
We can't break the low block. This needs to change.
WorldcupCSR@arsenalfc.social · 2 pts · 2y
@coygsu @Astrealix showed reiss’s deficiencies. Not a speedster nor tricky enough to beat a player; just sort of average.
coygsu@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
No one was dropping back and making runs inward for a cross. Only person who tried was ESR and that happened once. There weren't that many combination passes in and around the box. We were eager to shoot a weak shot than wait for a better opportunity.
WorldcupCSR@arsenalfc.social · 2 pts · 2y
@coygsu yeah there was a lot of space for someone to run into on the left side; and no one made that run.
coygsu@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Zinchenko, WTF!
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Well, we've been out of ideas since 70'
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
You and I the only ones still watching
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
just waiting for it to end so we can all complain
WorldcupCSR@arsenalfc.social · 2 pts · 2y
@Astrealix @ironeaglebird waiting? Been complaining all game
WorldcupCSR@arsenalfc.social · 1 pts · 2y
@ironeaglebird @sensiblepuffin it’s painful
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Jesus. 23 shots, 6 on target and no goals.
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Soft shot after soft shot
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Oh wow, another horror tackle on Jesus unpunished
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
(I'm overexaggerating but I'm furious here)
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
I'm convinced they hate us and Liverpool cuz of UAE money. Only thing that makes sense.
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Because we're in the top-4 and not owned by oil barons? It wouldn't surprise me.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
because we're threats to City, and UAE pays them to go ref in exhibition matches. Honestly wouldn't be surprised if even Chelsea would be subject to this if they were up here.
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Yeah sounds about right
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
The phrase "check complete" can actually get fucked
coygsu@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Martinelli, come on man. You're better than this!
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
also, having looked at it enough, it was definitely out lmfao but oh well fuck PGMOL once again, put some damn cameras on the line
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Saka playing really narrow.
coygsu@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Saka, what a bright spot
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
If only he'd roofed it :(
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Well at least Raya gets to show off
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
How can you just take out a players standing leg?
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
It's called playing against Arsenal.
hangonasecond@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Rice has passed it to a hammer like 4 times this game. Should we be worried or is it just bad luck?
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
I'm looking forward to the View today where they try and justify Saka's kick not being a pen but this being legitimate
SoupACabra@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 2y
Oh wow 360p footage being assessed
SoupACabra@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 2y
muh facilitator number 9
SoupACabra@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 2y
What's Saka's hairstyle called
coygsu@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Not this again
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
This is just comedic now
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Broooooo
SoupACabra@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 2y
Oh its mikey oliver
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Zini trying to create another 5 v 1 breakaway there
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
You know, in the right light, Emile actually does remind me of KdB. Here's hoping he actually gets to fulfill his destiny
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
In the right light and with the right facial hair
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
coygsu@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Reiss, ESR, Zinny & Eddie are on notice. If I were Arteta, I would get rid of them in the summer transfer window. As much as I like em, they're either injury prone and or play in a boom and bust cycle. We need a dependable 9, 8 and LB/LCB combo player.
hangonasecond@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Reiss, ESR and Eddie came into a game state that never should have existed. I agree that Eddie doesn't have a place if he can't find some consistency, and ESR needs to do more to prove that his one excellent season wasn't just a flash in the pan, but this game was absolutely not it.
The three of them seemed to actually want to win the game, unlike the starting 11 in the first half. Despite all the "control" we had, we looked like passengers in our own ground. If anything, this game is a reason for any one of martinelli, Gabriel Jesus, zinchenko, even Ben white to spend some serious time back on the bench. Fuck, Declan rice this game played well but had some serious stinkers of passes.
No credit taken from west ham but our players lost this game, and it definitely wasn't the subs. If the game was 0-0 or 1-0 our way and the subs did exactly the same thing we would be praising them for staying on the front foot and having some good opportunities.
Possibly one of Odegaards best performances in an Arsenal shirt and possibly one of Jesus' worst.
I agree with you in the positions that need addressing. I have faith that this hasn't just been a purple patch for Kai and he will make the 8 his own. I think in the absence of a number 9 who can bag them, our wingers, particularly martinelli, need to figure out where they put their goalscoring boots.
Left back is a tough one. We're stacked but they're all injured. I think Zinchenko & Timber will end up being more than enough, as long as Timbers injury was just bad luck and not something that becomes ongoing.
WorldcupCSR@arsenalfc.social · 2 pts · 2y
@coygsu @Astrealix zinchenko was bad. This is the type of game we need him for; to unlock low blocks but he didn’t have a good game at all.
SoupACabra@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 2y
This whole attack has a right side bias
SoupACabra@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 2y
yeah
before the match I was thinking this would be embarrassment to lose and here you go
SoupACabra@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 2y
Tross and Z itching to give the ball away
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Only shot on target this half is their goal, cuz of course it is.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Not watching this lol
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Raya's not saving it
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Holy shit am I wrong
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Lol reverse jinx
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Again not watching, though I might tune in later
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
I swear, my family eats dinner wayyy too late lol, still finishing up and it's 9 pm
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
At least this is more of an interesting title race for neutrals I guess
tgtads@arsenalfc.social · 1 pts · 2y
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2y
Top at Christmas then immediately surrender it the next week.
hangonasecond@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
This is the type of game that has loss all over it for us every year. I was hoping this year might be different. I'm still hoping.
WorldcupCSR@arsenalfc.social · 2 pts · 2y
@hangonasecond @ironeaglebird This feels like a game from about 6 years ago. Their second goal felt so predictable
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Let's just hope its the Bournemouth game from last season.
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Rice hasn't always dropped this deep into the 3 CB backline, has he?
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Well that about caps today off, doesn't it
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
.... Reiss
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
So about that number 9...
hangonasecond@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
We really miss Kai tonight
SoupACabra@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 2y
Tross is no duel winner
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Good save tbf
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
ref what you doin man
SoupACabra@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 2y
12th player vibes
SoupACabra@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 2y
Scoring from a cross? Nah we play classy football
SoupACabra@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 2y
Paqueta starts. He's not injured.
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Paqueta off, hopefully okay after this
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Why do they keep going back to the angle that's completely obstructed...
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Hands are all over Jesus, Christ
ironeaglebird@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Reiss coming on. You know Arteta is desperate
Astrealix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Wait what formation are we playing lol, 3-3-4? I genuinely gave up watching :P
hangonasecond@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Why do our midfielders seem so inattentive this game. So many pointless turnovers from poor passes.
SoupACabra@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 2y
We're entertainers we don't need to win
SoupACabra@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 2y
Esr hattrick in 11 minutes let's go guys
SoupACabra@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 2y
Captain about to have his day
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Saka's going to need adamantium shins soon
SoupACabra@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 2y
Wasn't expecting a Big Gabby stinker
WorldcupCSR@arsenalfc.social · 1 pts · 2y
@SoupACabra @Astrealix thought he was good
coygsu@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2y
I need ESR in for Trossard or Martinelli. The whole left side is pretty complacent especially Zinny.