Presidential hopefuls vying for a spot on Illinois’ March 19 primary ballot had to submit their nominating petitions to the State Board of Elections on Thursday or Friday. The loyalty pledge is not required but is a long-standing tradition that candidates undertake as part of that paperwork.
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originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com · 110 pts · 2y
perfect, so can this be pointed to as yet another tacit admission of being
a human piece of shitan insurrectionist?EdibleFriend@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 2y
That will not really hurt him in any way.
silence7@slrpnk.net · 35 pts · 2y
His base is likely in favor of ending democracy to have a dictatorship of billionaires, but a chunk of people who haven't been paying attention much may care
EdibleFriend@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 2y
lol people who didn't pay attention to the LITERAL FUCKING INSURRECTION might look at the fact he didn't sign paperwork and turn on him?
silence7@slrpnk.net · 18 pts · 2y
A big chunk of the population doesn't realize that Biden and Trump are shoo-ins for their parties nominations, and reminding those people that Trump has doubled down on ending democracy is important.
osarusan@kbin.social · 6 pts · 2y
Those people are beyond saving. But hopefully it will convince some of the "I don't like Biden so I'm gonna protest vote for some joke candidate" crowd to actually take the election seriously.
EdibleFriend@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
I don't see this being the 'turning point' for anyone if they haven't already turned on trump. This is basically jaywalking by his standards.
Yearly1845@reddthat.com · 5 pts · 2y
0110010001100010@lemmy.world · 86 pts · 2y
Probably because he IS planning to (try and) overthrow the government again if he looses in November.
Nougat@kbin.social · 37 pts · 2y
Or if he doesn't.
Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 23 pts · 2y
Yeah his plan probably boils down to:
A) Lose and overthrow
Or
B) Win and destroy our democracy
Nougat@kbin.social · 4 pts · 2y
Same outcome either way.
Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 2y
Wrong, if he loses then we have a better chance of stopping his attempts
pozbo@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
It depends on if his plans go accordingly.
For context his afternoon plans were to NOT shit himself. You can have a guess how those plans turned out.
pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online · 2 pts · 2y
He's been pretty vocal about his plans if he wins.
TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social · 10 pts · 2y
Yeah, I think he is being backed into a corner where he is all in on either "winning" the election or using his cult (this includes members of congress/military/etc.) to try and take the government so he doesn't have to answer for his crimes. He basically has nothing left to lose, which is why it's scary that states are putting him on the primary ballot to begin with. Letting him win the nomination and then should the Supreme Court decide that he (or any/every) president have absolute immunity to commit crimes and that the 14th amendment applies to him, things are going to get a lot more ugly. If he makes it all the way till November I think we are going to see violence from the right that makes Jan. 6 seem like a warm-up run.
Socsa@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 2y
If the supreme Court decides president have absolute immunity I hope Joe Biden straight up shoots him in the face.
TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social · 1 pts · 2y
He never would, but I also hope that he doesn't step down and instead we hold another election that includes non-traitors. He should also have a constitutional amendment that 100% spell out in no law degree required language that a president (sitting or not) is ALWAYS subject to the law, and insurrection by a president should be a "lock them up while they await trial" offence.
CodeName@infosec.pub · 53 pts · 2y
dudinax@programming.dev · 21 pts · 2y
It's also a signal to the "troops".
pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online · 3 pts · 2y
He doesn't need to lie. One of the only things he's been right about is that he could shoot someone in the street and no one would do anything about it.
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 2y
sticking it to the very concept of liberty in its loosest definition 🤌
DogPeePoo@lemm.ee · 21 pts · 2y
He’s never won the popular vote and he never will
Because he sucks Putin and shits himself
EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
In this country you don’t need the popular vote, you just need land’s vote and electors on your side.
Snapz@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 2y
They'll sacrifice their lives for a person who is demonstrably the actual biggest loser in history, and he just gets more loser-y, folks, okay... If any of you are starting to have your memories fade, here's a quick refresher to read this morning and then copy and send to your aunt karen in Missouri.
Nobody@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 2y
The problem with trump’s next attempt at an armed rebellion is that he left the J6 traitors rotting in jail even when he was still president. He could have pardoned them all, but didn’t.
Are people really going to risk death or years in the federal pen a second time?
silence7@slrpnk.net · 15 pts · 2y
He seems to keep on getting people to sacrifice themselves for him. It's kind of a lifelong habit
ech@lemm.ee · 11 pts · 2y
For nothing, too. It's absolutely bizarre. He has an expansive history of just dumping people the moment they become less than useful, and people still go out of their way to lay under the next bus.
WarmSoda@lemm.ee · 10 pts · 2y
Probably yes. These people aren't the cream of the crop.
TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social · 9 pts · 2y
I think with all the chaos at the end of his term that he was talked out of pardoning them all (he wanted to originally). He has made it a promise to pardon most/all on day one when he is "being dictator for a day" as a campaign promise. And the fun of the cult is he 110% doesn't have to follow through on any of what he says/promises because he despises his followers and they love him for it.
Xiaz@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 2y
Its like how you deal with killbots. You send wave after wave of troop at them until they hit the limit of their kill count and deactivate.
cultsuperstar@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
He wven said publicly he was going to pardon them, but not many have spoken up about it.
Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social · 13 pts · 2y
We’ve been holding our government together with the duct tape of “tradition” for too goddamn long and now it’s starting to peel off.
Pratai@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 2y
cultsuperstar@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2y
There are so many Republicans that say they don't trust the election anymore (thanks, Trump!). But how many are going to say they don't trust the election if Trump wins? None. None of them are going to say it was rigged if he wins.
nomous@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
He was saying 2016 was rigged after he won. They'll say anything in the moment and it won't matter as soon as it leaves their mouths, it's wild.
Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 2y
I have to say this pledge seems pretty stupid on the face of it. It's origins come from a very anti democratic place and the logic of it makes no sense since if you were planning to forcibly overthrow the government through a secret plan that involved running in the primaries you'd hardly let the cat out of the bag by skipping it, you'd just make the pledge and then do it.
This guy skipping it is for sure an ominous sign but he already wanted everyone to know this and the ootional and pointless pledge is providing a convenient means for a political stunt which is ironic since a stupid political stunt is what it sounds like it always was to begin with when people were forced to start making it for similar theatre.
Not saying it's not a concern though, it's a worrying marker of the changes of the political landscape where deliberately signalling a desire for insurrection is a smart and shrewd political move that's actually beneficial to a canditate when people point it out is a very dangerous place to be in.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
He has no plans to be loyal to anything but himself, so why waste energy on some random loyality pledge he does not intend to keep anyway?
Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 2y
Did he do it last time or skip it? Not that it matters to his base either way.
Edit: he signed it in 2016
Also: "The oath remains enshrined in Illinois law but has been struck down as unconstitutional on free speech grounds in federal courts."