Element as matrix client. It has some bugs and glitches but is the current best matrix client and the matrix protocol is the best communication protocol i know.
The protocol is open and well documented, it is fast, you can transmit everything from Voice over IP to IoT, it works decentralised and supports end-to-end encryption.
Signal is mainly used by the people I communicate with. The Founder of Signal is also a known Computer Security expert. The signal protocol itself is also used by WhatsApp, Google Messages and Faccebook Messages.
It isn't e2e encrypted. I think they use some form of roll your own encryption and the server theoretically can access the messages. Signal is just better from a privacy perspective.
I recently started beta-testing Beeper. I was on the hunt/wait for a nice to use client that would be finally able to get all my messengers into a single window for a very very long time (when all my massaging was through XMPP, ICQ and Skype I used to use Trillian), and it is almost it: Telrgram, WhatsApp, SMS and Discord DMs/chat channels in a single app/window.
Keep in mind I value convinience over privacy, but still am mindful about what I send where. Beeper server is not open source, but their bridges are (and encrypt messages before sending to server), and you are able to self host them, I saw in community chat room that some people do that for Signal, so everything is E2E encrypted on hardware under user control.
I should have specified that it doesn’t have E2E encryption by default, because transport encryption is absolutely standard and there’s no messenger that doesn’t have it.
I said “by default” because while secret chats are end-to-end encrypted, they aren’t the default.
I'm pretty sure it doesn't use e2e encryption. I think they have their own roll your own encryption that theoretically the server can access the content of your messages. No thanks.
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Scrabbone@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 3y
Element as matrix client. It has some bugs and glitches but is the current best matrix client and the matrix protocol is the best communication protocol i know.
GatoB@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 3y
Why do you think it is the best protocol?
Scrabbone@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 3y
The protocol is open and well documented, it is fast, you can transmit everything from Voice over IP to IoT, it works decentralised and supports end-to-end encryption.
Scrabbone@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 3y
https://spec.matrix.org/latest/ Here ist the specification website if you want to read more
MiDwqN@feddit.de · 4 pts · 3y
Signal
awderon@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 3y
In the current times Signal is the only viable way on mobile. On PC Matrix is a good alternative for chatrooms with friends.
countstex@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3y
I use Element on Android to access my Matrix account, keeps everything on one network for me that way.
GatoB@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 3y
Why Signal over other alternatives like Telegram?
awderon@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3y
Signal is mainly used by the people I communicate with. The Founder of Signal is also a known Computer Security expert. The signal protocol itself is also used by WhatsApp, Google Messages and Faccebook Messages.
I just had a look at the telegram privacy policy (https://telegram.org/privacy#8-who-your-personal-data-may-be-shared-with) and compared to signals privacy policy (https://signal.org/legal/) telegrams policy is just not for me.
GatoB@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 3y
Whats wrong with Telegram one?
awderon@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 3y
Their company construct and data sharing within that construct just doesn't align with my values.
CrypticCoffee@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 3y
It isn't e2e encrypted. I think they use some form of roll your own encryption and the server theoretically can access the messages. Signal is just better from a privacy perspective.
BlackRose@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 3y
Matrix (based on ActivityPub)
Molly (Signal fork)
dvdnet90@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3y
Signal for private and Whatsapp for work.
xill47@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 3y
I recently started beta-testing Beeper. I was on the hunt/wait for a nice to use client that would be finally able to get all my messengers into a single window for a very very long time (when all my massaging was through XMPP, ICQ and Skype I used to use Trillian), and it is almost it: Telrgram, WhatsApp, SMS and Discord DMs/chat channels in a single app/window.
xill47@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 3y
Keep in mind I value convinience over privacy, but still am mindful about what I send where. Beeper server is not open source, but their bridges are (and encrypt messages before sending to server), and you are able to self host them, I saw in community chat room that some people do that for Signal, so everything is E2E encrypted on hardware under user control.
MdRuckus@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 3y
GatoB@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
I also like it, IMO it has the best balance between privacy and cool features
asbestos@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
It has no encryption by default.
MdRuckus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
True, but it doesn't take a genius to start an e2e message. It's really easy.
GatoB@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
https://telegram.org/faq/es?setln=en#q-why-not-just-make-all-chats-39secret-39
asbestos@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 3y
I should have specified that it doesn’t have E2E encryption by default, because transport encryption is absolutely standard and there’s no messenger that doesn’t have it.
I said “by default” because while secret chats are end-to-end encrypted, they aren’t the default.
CrypticCoffee@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 3y
I'm pretty sure it doesn't use e2e encryption. I think they have their own roll your own encryption that theoretically the server can access the content of your messages. No thanks.