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c/conservative · by Kaboom@reddthat.com · 2y

Lakewood Church shooting suspect identified as transgender woman; 'Free Palestine' written on gun

https://www.foxnews.com/us/lakewood-church-shooting-suspect-identified-transgender-woman-long-criminal-record

Alt article: https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/authorities-respond-to-reported-shooting-near-houston-church/

-37 points · 21 comments · view on lemmy.world

21 Comments

PizzaMane@lemm.ee · 12 pts · 2y (23 replies)

Crazy how you guys only care about gun violence when someone other than your own side does it. Especially given that most political violence is right wing violence.

Announcing the shooter as trans front and center in the headline only serves to portray trans people as violent and dangerous, because where would fox news be if not for its continual perpetuation of bigotry against already vulnerable minorities?

Most shooters are straight, cis, white males. Yet you'll never see fox news with a headline going "X shooting suspect identified as a straight, cis, white male with 'kill all blacks' written on gun".

Meanwhile your alternative article you linked shows what better journalism looks like:

"Female suspect fatally shot after shooting at Joel Osteen's Lakewood Church"

And here is an actually good source:

https://apnews.com/article/church-shooting-joel-osteen-texas-ea557401f2eef247020e34297159536a

awwwyissss@lemm.ee · -7 pts · 2y (18 replies)

I think noting a shooter is trans is noteworthy because it's very rare and may be related to their motive.

But otherwise I generally agree with your statement. Worth nothingnoting that the US Department of Homeland Security has considered right wing extremists the biggest terrorist threat to the US for many years.

wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee · -9 pts · 2y (6 replies)
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awwwyissss@lemm.ee · 4 pts · 2y (5 replies)

According to another users comment below:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N363273/

Of those, “the number of known suspects in mass shootings which are trans is under 10 for the last decade,” which translated to “1:880 [or 0.11%] of the 4,400 shootings” they recorded, he said.

For the US, "About 1.03% of the nation’s adult population identifies as transgender, according to the Household Pulse Survey."

So it seems people who aren't trans are approximately ten times more likely to go on a mass shooting. Am I missing something?

wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee · -10 pts · 2y (4 replies)
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awwwyissss@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 2y (3 replies)

Did you read my comment? Are you an LLM?

wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee · -10 pts · 2y (2 replies)
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MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works · -9 pts · 2y

A brain, seemingly

MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works · -10 pts · 2y (10 replies)

Worth nothing that the US Department of Homeland Security has considered right wing extremists the biggest terrorist threat to the US for many years.

And why should I care what some government jerkoffs decide the narrative is?

awwwyissss@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 2y (9 replies)

Because they're experts instead of anonymous social media accounts.

MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works · -10 pts · 2y (8 replies)

Oh wow, they're expert jerkoffs.

awwwyissss@lemm.ee · 7 pts · 2y (7 replies)

Yes, they're certainly experts. They get payed good money for work in highly competitive positions. They have specialized educations focused on this issue, plus tens of thousands of hours working on it professionally.

Vs anonymous social media accounts.

MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works · -8 pts · 2y (6 replies)

I don't really know why you've decided that social media accounts are your ultimate measuring stick for how trustworthy someone is. Seems pretty fucking stupid, like you

intensely_human@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 2y

Seems to me like awwwyisssss considers the experts to be the yardstick here.

Menteros@lemm.ee · -11 pts · 2y (3 replies)

Most shooters are straight, cis, white males.

You only think so because the media memory holes any shooting by a trans activist.

Why do we not have the covenant shooters full manifesto? Why was it hidden for so long? Because it said things like this -

Wanna kill all you little c*******," one page from the manifesto reads. "Bunch of little f****** w/ your white privlages f*** you f******."

But shills don't care about facts, only the narrative.

PizzaMane@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 2y (2 replies)

You only think so because the media memory holes any shooting by a trans activist.

You are factually incorrect.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N363273/

Of those, “the number of known suspects in mass shootings which are trans is under 10 for the last decade,” which translated to “1:880 [or 0.11%] of the 4,400 shootings” they recorded, he said.

LookBehindYouNowAndThen@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y (1 reply)

But shills don't care about facts, only the narrative.

This aged well.

PizzaMane@lemm.ee · 4 pts · 2y

Statement like that is the result of only listening to things like fox news and not the bee. It's the result of thinking fox news is somehow a valid news source.

wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee · -6 pts · 2y (1 reply)
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PizzaMane@lemm.ee · 7 pts · 2y

Correct. The headline is complete bullshit, which is par for the course for fox news.

https://www.them.us/story/the-right-is-once-again-spreading-a-rumor-that-the-lakewood-church-shooter-is-trans

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/lakewood-shooting-genesse-jeffrey-moreno-transgender-b2495803.html

https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7bnna/lakewood-church-shooting-houston-far-right-misinformation-claiming-suspect-transgender

But making trans people appear to be some giant threat took precedence over the truth. Gotta make sure minorities that are at risk for violence are at even more risk.