Portland and the surrounding areas are this weird dichotomy of super left-wing and super right-wing people all in the same place. Hence why you tend to get a lot of Proud Boys vs Antifa demonstrations/standoffs/fights there.

Son_of_dad@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y

I live in Toronto, and when you live in a place that's accepting of something like transgender people, the bigots feel attacked and become more vocal. The racists in Toronto get pretty vocal and I always wonder what the hell you're doing in one of the most multi cultural cities in the world if you don't like others

harderian729@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 2y (9 replies)

I'm curious what the legality of this really is.

What rights do businesses have to dictate which restrooms their patrons use?

neptune@dmv.social · 13 pts · 2y (8 replies)

Probably none. The whole bathroom debate has been legally dubious from the outset.

harderian729@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y (7 replies)

That's weird. They can refuse people using their bathrooms if they don't pay, I figured denying them for other reasons was also on the table.

neptune@dmv.social · 4 pts · 2y (6 replies)

How could it be? Are they checking birth certificates?

harderian729@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 2y (5 replies)

I mean, they shouldn't even have to check birth certificates.

What's stopping a business from saying you can't use their restrooms just because they feel like it?

Djtecha@lemm.ee · 8 pts · 2y

Might be part of the requirement for running a business is you have to have a restroom available. When's the last time you were in a restaurant without a bathroom? I'm sure they all don't just supply one because it'd be weird to not, instead it's probably part of the license req.

neptune@dmv.social · 6 pts · 2y (2 replies)

Well potentially nothing? Until someone says "why?" and then it becomes gender discrimination

harderian729@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Does a business even have to answer that question?

neptune@dmv.social · 1 pts · 2y

If they get sued. Or are under public pressure to not be a bunch of assholes. Sure.

quindraco@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 2y

In the general case, nothing. Not too long ago I was in a Ben & Jerry's that had closed its bathroom down, for example.

The bartender in question here committed battery; that's the underlying crime, not denying bathroom access. The hate crime rider on top is, by definition, an enhanced penalty for thinking illegal thoughts while committing some other crime.

Son_of_dad@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y

“I wasn’t trying to misgender her — I had to look up what transgender was in the dictionary,” McIntyre said. “We were just arguing over spilt milk.”

This bartender is definitely a bigot. Like I'm to believe you don't know what transgender people are in 2024 and you work at a bar? Yeah right