I'm quite tall and have rather long arms. As a consequence, I rarely find myself sitting at the desk with the elbows bent at a proper angle while typing. I figured out it would be more comfortable for me to work with the keyboard sitting on my lap, tented if possible, but I couldn't find a stable configuration with my split 34-keys board. Is there anybody that came up with a smart solution to this?
I'm also considering building a small unibody like the hummingbird, but I guess it may be too small to comfortably sit on the lap.
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minusfive@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 3y
Corne-ish Zen with “magfrotto” tenting. Rests surprisingly comfortably and stable. Have had a few long sessions on the couch and a poang chair. Technically I could attach it magnetically to my pants as described here https://evantravers.com/articles/2023/04/06/magsafe-tenting-and-wearable-keyboards/ , but haven’t needed to.
g0g0gadget@fedia.io · 1 pts · 3y
Okay this is very exciting. And is so happening. 😍
minusfive@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3y
nickfaraco@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
I wouldn't have bet a dime on the stability of those things. That's great! I was planning to join the magfrotto gang using the z-tripods, but I might as well opt for these ones instead if they can really be used like that.
minusfive@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3y
Yeah, I mean, don’t slam them, but they hold OK. Very convenient.
galilette@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 3y
May not be what you are looking for, but I'd look into either a chair mount or an under-the-desk keyboard tray.
nickfaraco@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
That's probably what I'll end up doing in the long run (since it would allow to keep the mouse closer too). I'm just entering the mechanical keyboard rabbit hole tho, and I want to figure out my pseudo-endgame keyboard and layout before investing in mounts and similar.
g0g0gadget@fedia.io · 3 pts · 3y
Here’s my setup! The Moonlander and trackpad are stuck to a bamboo board with little Velcro dots, and the board sits on my lap sometimes and on an under-mount keyboard tray other times. The Moonlander is tented with an OEM kit from ZSA (The Platform).
https://imgur.com/a/b2Y5DvY
nickfaraco@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
That's an interesting setup and probably what I'll end up doing - at least at home - until I pull the trigger on some smallrig arms.
jaredj@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 3y
I just bought an oak board about 1/4 inch thick and 6 inches wide, sawed it off about two feet long, and made sure my keyboard was rubberized on the bottom
iZRBQEcWVXNdnPtTV@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3y
I find that something with more texture on my lap helps, like a towel of some kind, or a board with an exposed PCB helps a lot. I've also heard the Atreus works really well on the lap.
nickfaraco@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
The exposed PCB and towel could be a neat trick when I work from home, but I'd like to find a slightly more refined solution, possibly portable. At some point, the endgame will probably be a set of clamped mounts at home and one at work, to which magnetically attach the keyboard I carry around. The Atreus is an interesting option in the meanwhile, but I have a few concerns. First and foremost, too little pinky stagger. I don't even find the one of my chocofi to be enough and operate the upper pinky key with my ring finger instead. Not a big deal tho, I could ignore the additional keys and I will probably move to a 30 keys layout someday. Next, there's the software: I'm not sure moving away from zmk is worth it. And lastly, I have no experience with mechanical switches apart from the keychron bananas (which I hate) and linear chocs. But I don't like long travels, so MX style switches is probably not my cup of tea (and honestly I'd like a shorter travel for chocs too). Actually I'm on the look for a way to reproduce the feeling of the latest MacBook Pros. I've never used an apple keyboard before (fortunately, it seems), but I really enjoy the tactility and short travel of the one on my laptop. I've heard good things about kailh speed switches, but I never tried them.
iZRBQEcWVXNdnPtTV@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3y
I'm interested in something like this that allows something like split keyboard tray mount. The Glove80 also has a pretty elegant tripod mounting option, since you mentioned low profile switches. The Ferris Sweep also has a greater pinky stagger, and you may also consider using Ergogen in the future to make something that properly matches your hand curvature!
nickfaraco@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
The glove80 has way too many keys for me. And, as far as I know, the stagger on the Sweep is the same as the chocofi. But yeah, I'll probably create my own design sooner or later.
seltzered@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3y
I'm using a non-ergo keyboard, but to note I still use this setup on the lap: https://www.reddit.com/r/ErgoMobileComputers/comments/tcwep0/raised_tablet_setup_weight_comparison/ - Someday want to switch to a monoblock ergo keyboard.
You may want to consider the folding tentable keyboard design btrfld: https://www.reddit.com/r/ErgoMobileComputers/comments/119b5gi/v2_of_the_btrfld_a_foldable_low_profile_tenting/ -> https://www.reddit.com/r/ErgoMechKeyboards/comments/118nzbs/v2_of_the_btrfld_a_foldable_low_profile_tenting/
nickfaraco@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
Super interesting setup you have there! And thank you for bringing back to my attention the btrfld, I had forgotten about it. Far too many keys for me, but that's a design idea I should look into if I'll ever try to design my own keyboard.
thatguyadmin@lemmy.itsallbadsyntax.com · 1 pts · 3y
Ben Vallack made a video really close to your question. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOupyi-lQZM annnnd of course ~14 months later he found a better way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT3TToFqqEU
My keyboard designs are unibody with a slight split, very similar to the lumberjack. when I break it apart , a slight angle really makes it comfortable to use. but nothing really beats having your arms shoulder width apart, as it helps put the shoulder blades sit in a more natural placement.
nickfaraco@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3y
I think I've seen every single video by Ben Vallack, he's actually the one that got me into the hobby. And the idea of the magnetic clamps I mentioned in another comment partly comes from his ideas. Strapping the keyboard to my legs didn't work well for me instead, too wobbly. I'd be curious to have a look at your designs.
thatguyadmin@lemmy.itsallbadsyntax.com · 1 pts · 3y
New to Lemmy, so I'll link to my single post "blog".
I have since gone back and made another board. It is 17mm spacing and removed the number row as I didn't use it much.
nickfaraco@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
That's an interesting design! But yeah, I agree there's too many keys. How do you like the X switches?
thatguyadmin@lemmy.itsallbadsyntax.com · 1 pts · 3y
For the price, at the moment I would say they are not worth it. 2$ a switch for X vs 1$ a switch for Chocs
The brown switches feel good, blues need a little bit too much force for my liking. The keycaps have no shape to them and was not a good experience stock. I resin printed a slight dish shape to glue on top, night and day difference in typing feel.
Maybe I will get some pictures, and make a second post... eventually.
nickfaraco@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
Thank you for the info!
sffubs@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
Stenography keyboards sometimes come with a camera tripod screw in the base. That allows you to mount the keyboard at lap height in a stable way.
For example: https://docs.stenokeyboards.com/customize/tripod.html
nickfaraco@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3y
I need a more commute-friendly solution, but that’s an interesting approach nonetheless. Thank you for sharing!