Tried Ubuntu a few years back. Snap was a big part of why I dropped it. Started using Pop_OS last year, and while it's still not my main driver (mostly because of gaming issues), I split my time between it and windows pretty evenly.
I have Kubuntu installed on my desktop, been using it for years. I had disabled snap Firefox and used a Deb version, but the other day I discovered that Kubuntu reinstalled the snap Firefox.
I've been planning to switch to Debian on my desktop, but I just haven't gotten around to it yet. This little incident is reminding why I want to in the first place.
Using a de-bloated Ubuntu reminds me of my time on Windows - had to use a bunch of tools to disable all kind of sh*t. Not doing this again, Ubuntu will never be a choice for me.
Oh good, it's not just me with weird freezing problems. I often see individual windows hang for a good while as well, and then KWin just restarts in place.
I love kde, I love the file picker, I love window management, I love dolphin, I love the panels, I love Kate, etc... but every time I have to switch to a new tty to restart kwin, part of my soul dies
A minimal Gentoo install contains less than 30 packages and fits in 1GB of disk (no GUI, though). If you more than double either of those numbers, you're not "minimal".
That is the point. Unless Gentoo has a user-friendly graphical installer that offers minimal dekstop options that does everything automatically for you there is no point of comparison.
21 Comments
riodoro1@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 2y
Thats a wrong answer.
Ganbat@lemmyonline.com · 4 pts · 2y
Tried Ubuntu a few years back. Snap was a big part of why I dropped it. Started using Pop_OS last year, and while it's still not my main driver (mostly because of gaming issues), I split my time between it and windows pretty evenly.
limelight79@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 2y
I have Kubuntu installed on my desktop, been using it for years. I had disabled snap Firefox and used a Deb version, but the other day I discovered that Kubuntu reinstalled the snap Firefox.
I've been planning to switch to Debian on my desktop, but I just haven't gotten around to it yet. This little incident is reminding why I want to in the first place.
someonesmall@lemmy.ml · 20 pts · 2y
Using a de-bloated Ubuntu reminds me of my time on Windows - had to use a bunch of tools to disable all kind of sh*t. Not doing this again, Ubuntu will never be a choice for me.
john89@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 2y
Yeah. Glad I'm pretty much done moving my server to Debian.
Fuck snaps. And fuck paying for security updates, lol.
SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Are these issues also present on Ubuntu based LXCs?
If so I'll have some game servers needing migration soon
DmMacniel@feddit.de · 18 pts · 2y
Either you are a snap free distro or you aren't. You can't be somewhere in a middle when the option is binary.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 13 pts · 2y
I prefer my beer 93% alcohol free.
LeFantome@programming.dev · 3 pts · 2y
I also like stronger beers
someonesmall@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 2y
I'll translate "almost snap free" for you: It's still using snap for some stuff that wouldn't work without snap. Avoid Ubuntu.
DmMacniel@feddit.de · 1 pts · 2y
Ok thanks for that.
narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee · 13 pts · 2y
"nearly Snap-free", hmm. I think I used Xubuntu briefly, but that was way before Snap was a thing.
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 2y
Shareni@programming.dev · 7 pts · 2y
Would you shake someone's hand if it was nearly shit-free?
Dr_Evil@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 2y
Most people's hands probably are only nearly shit-free 🤢
MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 2y
This snap-laden Ubuntu remix
ftfy
john89@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 2y
I'm honestly thinking about going back to XFCE after years with KDE.
Idk, it just seems really buggy to me now. The transition to 6 isn't going as smoothly as it should, but it's about what I'd expect.
I keep getting weird freezes where the dock stops working.
myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website · 2 pts · 2y
Oh good, it's not just me with weird freezing problems. I often see individual windows hang for a good while as well, and then KWin just restarts in place.
WormFood@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
I love kde, I love the file picker, I love window management, I love dolphin, I love the panels, I love Kate, etc... but every time I have to switch to a new tty to restart kwin, part of my soul dies
Quazatron@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Xubuntu is still my distro of choice.
Removing snap and installing flatpak is two commands away.
nyan@sh.itjust.works · -7 pts · 2y
A minimal Gentoo install contains less than 30 packages and fits in 1GB of disk (no GUI, though). If you more than double either of those numbers, you're not "minimal".
nfsu2@feddit.cl · 3 pts · 2y
That is the point. Unless Gentoo has a user-friendly graphical installer that offers minimal dekstop options that does everything automatically for you there is no point of comparison.