word o phrase for nature

https://nimi.li/ale

Pona! I have a doubt. the word for nature (plants+animals+humans+rocks) could be ale?

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DieguiTux8623@feddit.it · 3 pts · 2y (3 replies)

I looked it up in the Toki Pona dictionary and "nature" is translated as:

  • "ma" with a frequency of 3
  • "ma kasi" with 1
  • "nasin ma" with ½
  • "ale" with ½
  • "ale pi pali jan ala" ½
  • "nasin" ½

The second last one is the one I wouldn't have never expected, does it mean "everything not created by the work of any man"?

Alex@scribe.disroot.org · 3 pts · 2y (1 reply)

then knownledge of nature would be ma sona? hahaha in spanish masona is a woman of a secret lodge.

DieguiTux8623@feddit.it · 3 pts · 2y

Just my opinion: "sona ma" = "knowledge of nature", whereas "ma sona" = "land of knowledge".

Batronyx@mastodon.social · 1 pts · 2y

@DieguiTux8623 That's the way I read it.
The one that gets me is "nasin" by itself, and "ma" too for that matter.
"nasin ma" would also be how I describe a dirt road.
I actually like that next to last one best.
nasin could be paired with it to imply "natural"

DieguiTux8623@feddit.it · 3 pts · 2y (1 reply)

I have heard "ale" meaning "nature" or at least I've interpreted it like this (all the nature), e.g. in the song "pipi li tawa kasi" by Marcus Scriptor.

https://youtu.be/CVNUJRbg9M0?si=Agx__wVyhn9TPOL8

Alex@scribe.disroot.org · 2 pts · 2y

then sona ale or ale sona would be knowldge of nature more o less?

Deckweiss@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y

Maybe some combination of ma, kon and ale?

Maybe "kasi en soweli en ma en kon"?

Shadow_Glider@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 1y

There's not really a word for nature, use a more specific word as per your wanted meaning.