At least 34 dead, dozen hospitalized after drinking illegally brewed liquor in southern India
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/at-least-34-dead-dozen-hospitalized-after-drinking-illegally-brewed-liquor-in-southern-indian
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anon6789@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 2y
Did some more digging to get us some more helpful info here. I assembled quotes from 3 articles to make you guys a more cohesive story. Take that AI, I'm coming for your jobs! 😆
First quote is from OP's PBS article. The rest is assembled from this BBC article, and this other article that the BBC referred to for their info.
ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com · 19 pts · 2y
Stop using southern Indians as your drinking vessel and that wouldn't be a problem. Daft auto written headlines...
Wilshire@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
It looks like it's corrected now. Copy editing is sadly dead.
Kalkaline@leminal.space · 18 pts · 2y
Fucking idiots. It's very difficult to make enough methanol to be dangerous with a standard mash and distilling methods. Most of the time these fucking idiots are using stolen methanol from industrial sites to bump up their ABV and they make people super sick with it. Stop killing/hospitalizing your customers and you won't get caught.
nikita@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 2y
Dude ikr. You have to actively try to make methanol when you’re distilling, like only collecting the foreshots over and over.
And by that point I’d be super easy to tell it’s not regular alcohol because it will smell like nail polish remover and other volatile compounds.
evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
There's actually more methanol in the tails than the foreshots due to complicated chemistry.
nikita@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 2y
Can you elaborate or link to further reading?
I assumed methanol is the first to go because of its lower boiling point — 65 degrees compared to ethanol at 78
evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
this explains it a bit. The quick and dirty answer is that when you boil a mash, you are boiling a solution, not just 3 individual liquids (ignoring all the other stuff in there). It's similar to how adding salt to water lowers the freezing point and raises the boiling point.
Water is polar, while ethanol only has mild polarity. Methanol is more polar than ethanol, so it holds onto the water more. If you had a mixture of methanol and ethanol with no water, you'd probably get more methanol first, but the water changes things.
Toes@ani.social · 1 pts · 2y
What kind of smells am I looking for?
Jack smells like gasoline to me, so I'm not sure.
evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 2y
They need to do better at wording the titles of articles like this. It should read something like "34 dead after drinking tainted/poisoned liquor". Contrary to popular belief, brewing does not produce enough methanol to be toxic, and distilling does not concentrate it relative to the ethanol to a point where moonshine could be toxic. Media likes to portray like you have to be careful not to produce methanol, when really, you would have to intentionally make it. Here's a good writeup about it.
Methanol toxicity only really occurs when people deliberately add methanol to alcohol, either as a deterrent to keep you from drinking it (e.g. hardware store "denatured alcohol"), or to counterfeit real drinking alcohol. I can guarantee you this is a case of someone dumping a bunch of cheap, industrial methanol into watered down real booze to increase profits.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 2y
Boy did PBS bury the lede after a bunch of paragraphs-
These people died because they were desperately poor and sought the only escape they could afford.