Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending Sunday 14 July 2024

Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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145 Comments

dgerard@awful.systems · 21 pts · 2y (14 replies)

Go check your privacy settings in Firefox - they've switched on sending data to advertisers by default as of Firefox 128. Even Google sent this setting out default off, probably having spoken to an actual lawyer who mentioned the GDPR.

mii@awful.systems · 9 pts · 2y (5 replies)

Sounds like a good idea to piss off your primary user base, because at this stage I feel the only people singing Firefox's praise are privacy advocates who won't touch Chrome & friends with a ten-foot pole.

(I have the feeling that this comes from the same shithead who pushed to include spicy autocomplete in Firefox.)

It's also enabled in the dev builds, by the way. I just checked.

self@awful.systems · 8 pts · 2y (4 replies)

(I have the feeling that this comes from the same shithead who pushed to include spicy autocomplete in Firefox.)

it definitely reads like the same shithead, but I’ve had them blocked on mastodon for some time so I can’t say for sure if it was for rampant LLMery or for doing the “without advertising the modern web would die and you don’t want that do you” thing advertisers do constantly

mii@awful.systems · 9 pts · 2y (2 replies)

Lol what an absolute tool. That’s the same shit the marketing bozos at my job say when I inform them that, no, I can’t auto opt-in our customers into whatever stupid Facebook ad campaign they’re pushing this week because it’s literally against the GDPR and our privacy laws.

But I guess that’s the logical next step if your whole business model depends on lazy deceiving people into clicking the button with the flashiest color in the cookie popup without reading the label.

P.S. the modern web can die in a fucking fire.

mawhrin@awful.systems · 9 pts · 2y (1 reply)

this is not people's laziness; it's that the practice is deceptive. don't reinforce the business narrative.

mii@awful.systems · 7 pts · 2y

Fair point, you’re right.

self@awful.systems · 7 pts · 2y

and because it feels like it’s worth screaming this into the void in case there’s any marketing assholes reading: fuck yes I’m here to kill the modern web

mawhrin@awful.systems · 8 pts · 2y

this is quite infuriating, i had a number of mozilla/firefox people telling me that this feature wouldn't work with opt-in (it's bullshit though) because too few users would enable it, and neither fucker asked himself : “wait, if we're afraid we can't convince our user base to buy-in, perhaps we shouldn't develop the feature?”

BlueMonday1984@awful.systems · 6 pts · 2y (5 replies)

Well, I needed an excuse to use Supermium - no better excuse than this.

froztbyte@awful.systems · 8 pts · 2y (3 replies)

I don't really know if any chromium-based options are a real solution - there's so much code in there that a lot of times won't get caught (cf. brave etc for this very thing), and goog is actively working to push their own agenda and they have a lot more dev-hours than anyone else to churn shit out

ladybird and servo seem like the most promising alternative paths right now, and ladybird less so because chuds -_-

sinedpick@awful.systems · 2 pts · 2y (2 replies)

Ladybird isn't going anywhere. The web standards move too fast and they're not going to be able to catch up. I wish it was another way, but there's no way a couple of million $ is going to move the needle here when (probably) tens of billions have been poured into chromium/FF.

froztbyte@awful.systems · 2 pts · 2y (1 reply)

also it looks likely to have other possible problems

sinedpick@awful.systems · 5 pts · 2y

oof. Something tells me he's a good guy and just knee-jerked that response without thinking about it. But then I realize it doesn't matter because the kind of community you create doesn't depend on who you are deep down but what you say publicly.

BlueMonday1984@awful.systems · 6 pts · 2y

Update - Ended up jumping ship to Librewolf, since I just didn't like the feel of Chromium.

I was contemplating going back to Firefox, but then I accidentally wiped my entire profile whilst trying to transfer over my browser history and went "fuck it, I'm sticking with Libre".

sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems · 3 pts · 2y
BigMuffin69@awful.systems · 19 pts · 2y (6 replies)

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-02218-7

Might be slightly off topic, but interesting result using adversarial strategies against RL trained Go machines.

Quote: Humans able use the adversarial bots’ tactics to beat expert Go AI systems, does it still make sense to call those systems superhuman? “It’s a great question I definitely wrestled with,” Gleave says. “We’ve started saying ‘typically superhuman’.” David Wu, a computer scientist in New York City who first developed KataGo, says strong Go AIs are “superhuman on average” but not “superhuman in the worst cases”.

Me thinks the AI bros jumped the gun a little too early declaring victory on this one.

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 13 pts · 2y

See, in StarCraft we would just say that the meta is evolving in order to accommodate this new strategy. Maybe Go needs to take a page from newer games in how these things are discussed.

sc_griffith@awful.systems · 10 pts · 2y (3 replies)

this is simple. we just need to train a new model for every move. that way the adversarial bot won't know what weaknesses to exploit

BigMuffin69@awful.systems · 10 pts · 2y (2 replies)

In chess the table base for optimal moves with only 7 pieces takes like ~20 terrabytes to store. And in that DB there are bizzare checkmates that take 100 + moves even with perfect precision- ignoring the 50 move rule. I wonder if the reason these adversarial strats exists is because whatever the policy network/value network learns is way, way smaller than the minimum size of the "true" position eval function for Go. Thus you'll just invariably get these counter play attacks as compression artifacts.

Sources cited: my ass cheeks

sc_griffith@awful.systems · 9 pts · 2y (1 reply)

i don't think that can be quite right, as illustrated by an extreme example: consider a game where the first move has player 1 choose "win" or "hypergo." if player 1 chooses win, they win. if player 1 chooses hypergo, begin a game of Go on a 1,000,000,000 x 1,000,000,000 board, and whoever wins that subgame wins. for player 1, the 'true' position eval function must be in some sense incredibly complicated, because it includes hypergo nonsense. but player 1 strategy can be compressed to "choose win" without opening up any counterattacks

sc_griffith@awful.systems · 8 pts · 2y

more generally I suspect that as soon as you are trying to compare some notion of a 'true' position eval function to eval functions you can actually generate you're going to have a very difficult time making correct and clear predictions. the reason I say this is that treating such a 'true' function is essentially the domain of combinatorial game theory (not the same as "game theory"), and there are few if any bridges people have managed to build between cgt and practical Go etc playing engines. so it's probably pretty hard to do

(I know there's a theory of 'temperature' of combinatorial games that I think was developed for purposes of analyzing Go, but I don't think it has any known relationship to reinforcement learning based Go engines)

ShakingMyHead@awful.systems · 8 pts · 2y

60% of the time, it works 100% of the time.

saucerwizard@awful.systems · 17 pts · 2y (8 replies)

https://xcancel.com/kitten_beloved/status/1810709361175691474

In which TPOT unites to yell at scooter because he isn’t down with mental health apartheid schemes.

earthquake@lemm.ee · 16 pts · 2y

"disorderly cities are required by the state religion"

When they are absolutely sure the tweet will not escape containment, they will just take assumptions like "a certain percentage of people has incurable Criminal Mind" as given and go from there.

dgerard@awful.systems · 11 pts · 2y (3 replies)

that twitter account is absolutely something

Soyweiser@awful.systems · 12 pts · 2y (2 replies)

looks at profile 'adorable and harmless' and then 2 tweets later, turns out they are racist.

froztbyte@awful.systems · 9 pts · 2y

cozy twitter TPOT all over

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 9 pts · 2y

I'm always shocked to see someone to Milkshake Duck themselves this hard within a single post.

skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 2y (1 reply)

tangent: these screencaps are from scott? he doesn't mention long acting injectable antipsychotics (one shot every 2-4 weeks or so, no pills needed; needs consent ofc, result is vastly increased compliance) is that not a thing over there?

e: he mentions it but doesn't discuss it for whatever reason

saucerwizard@awful.systems · 9 pts · 2y

Depot injections are ‘leftism’ it seems.

Soyweiser@awful.systems · 7 pts · 2y

Scott: 'left thought' okayyy

blakestacey@awful.systems · 17 pts · 2y (2 replies)

And in other news:

Muse is a new creative platform that can create your own AI-generated series so you can dive into a new world of storytelling without the need for personal content creation.

Who the fuck are these people and why do I not have a button that spreads Lego bricks across their floor?

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 10 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Yeah, I always hated the part of art and storytelling where there was always a tiny and sometimes misshapen window into the human soul there. Better to do away with that and replace it with an endless parade of #sponsoredcontent. That way there's no risk of suddenly developing empathy or accidentally connecting with the people I'm exploiting as a billionaire VC.

weirdwriter@tweesecake.social · 6 pts · 2y
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gnomicutterance@awful.systems · 17 pts · 2y (5 replies)

From the just released GOP 2024 party platform (PDF), this is a single bullet point in CHAPTER THREE: BUILD THE GREATEST ECONOMY IN HISTORY:

Republicans will pave the way for future Economic Greatness by leading the World in Emerging Industries.

Crypto

Republicans will end Democrats’ unlawful and unAmerican Crypto crackdown and oppose the creation of a Central Bank Digital Currency. We will defend the right to mine Bitcoin, and ensure every American has the right to self-custody of their Digital Assets, and transact free from Government Surveillance and Control.

Artificial Intelligence (AI)

We will repeal Joe Biden’s dangerous Executive Order that hinders AI Innovation, and imposes Radical Leftwing ideas on the development of this technology. In its place, Republicans support AI Development rooted in Free Speech and Human Flourishing.

Expanding Freedom, Prosperity and Safety in Space

Under Republican Leadership, the United States will create a robust Manufacturing Industry in Near Earth Orbit, send American Astronauts back to the Moon, and onward to Mars, and enhance partnerships with the rapidly expanding Commercial Space sector to revolutionize our ability to access, live in, and develop assets in Space.

When your party platform is just a long-form weird tweet that you wrote after bong rips with Elon Musk.

V0ldek@awful.systems · 14 pts · 2y

unAmerican

This is somehow the worst thing Republicans did this year.

Soyweiser@awful.systems · 12 pts · 2y

Human Flourishing

This term was already very iffy, but this cements it into being full on red flag territory.

When your party platform is just a long-form weird tweet that you wrote after bong rips with Elon Musk.

Wouldnt be surpised if we discover he is behind it, the whole manufacturing things in space (yes I also played SMAX Musk) has his smell over it. What makes this a bit more funny is that Musk has also been hired to help safely crash down the ISS into the sea (Personally considering the cost of lifting stuff out of our gravity I would try to keep it up there, if I wanted to build more things in space, but due to capitalism we cannot (really, the ISS is going to be trashed because figuring out who own what part and resolving all that is too hard, capital says no)). Which brings up a fantastic opportunity for a random person on twitter who has Musks ear. We can now put a city at risk of being crushed by the ISS by tweeting 'hey musk, make the ISS do a barrel roll'.

m@blat.at · 11 pts · 2y (2 replies)

@gnomicutterance @dgerard Has the Republican writing style guide been updated to mandate that Weird Capitalisation thing that Cheeto Benito does or something?

froztbyte@awful.systems · 10 pts · 2y

dogwhistles all the way down

Soyweiser@awful.systems · 9 pts · 2y

Fantasy PnP RPG Capitalisation.

blakestacey@awful.systems · 17 pts · 2y (8 replies)

Funniest fuckin' sentence I have read today:

First off, if you've read The Singularity Is Near, which was published 19 years ago in 2005, you should be aware that the sequel book is a lot less technical.

V0ldek@awful.systems · 17 pts · 2y (6 replies)

Wait, this guy published "is Near" twenty years ago and then UNIRONICALLY published "is Nearer"?

Come the fuck on, this has to be satire?

The sequel to "Apocalypse Now", "Apocalypse Even More Presently"

gerikson@awful.systems · 12 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Asymptotically approaching the Singularity.

V0ldek@awful.systems · 7 pts · 2y

Gooning for rats

jonhendry@iosdev.space · 9 pts · 2y

@V0ldek

Buy my new book “You're older than you've ever been”.

Twenty years pass

Buy my new book “And now you're even older”

Soyweiser@awful.systems · 7 pts · 2y (2 replies)

iirc he predicted the singularity somewhere in 2040 so it does make sense, even if it looks weird.

V0ldek@awful.systems · 12 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Oh gosh, hopefully I live to see "Singularity Is Still Near, Just Not as Near as I Thought: Trust Me Bros" released in 2041

Soyweiser@awful.systems · 8 pts · 2y

'Sorry no singularity, climate change is an existential threat after all'.

(I'm bitterly reminded of the SSC post where he starts with 'why don't we hear about the ozone layer anymore, well the scientists fixed it!' where he goes after the environmentalist movement. There is only one problem with the 'we fixed the ozone layer' thing. Butt wait, there is more!)

dgerard@awful.systems · 8 pts · 2y

tl;dr is upset that Kurzweil is not as much of a doomer as they are

zbyte64@awful.systems · 16 pts · 2y

Over at "work on climate" there's been an influx of companies that will greenwash using ChatGPT. One company I interviewed for (in my estimation it) boiled down to using ChatGPT to make generic greening recommendations for a business and attach hallucinated numbers that the client can then pass off for themselves.

Edit: is there a list of companies that use "prompt engineering" so that I can just avoid them?

froztbyte@awful.systems · 16 pts · 2y (7 replies)

(I’ll try put a decent summary of links on this later)

there’s a UK party that (aiui) committed electoral crimes by submitting non-existing genML-created people as candidates, a whole new usecase!

gonna be real fun to see that catching sunlight, if TNI manages to do due process right

swlabr@awful.systems · 14 pts · 2y

what a coincidence, "aiui" is the sound I make when I get caught doing electoral crimes.

mpk@awful.systems · 10 pts · 2y

If you want more crazy, that political party is actually a limited company in which the leader is also the majority shareholder and the bylaws permit him to fire and appoint a majority of directors at will. I’m not sold on whether all those candidates were actually fake, but journalists from more credible outlets than Byline Times are no doubt working on physically tracking down every one off these candidates as we speak to verify their existence or otherwise.

skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 2y

max headroom for prez

dgerard@awful.systems · 8 pts · 2y (3 replies)

guardian story

one guy whose pic looks like a fucking Auton actually got in touch with the Grauniad and showed them the original of his ridiculously yassified campaign photo

froztbyte@awful.systems · 7 pts · 2y (1 reply)

it continues to do my head in that I vacillate on whether there's more insane politics shit for y'all in TNI, or in what we have here in ZA

mpk@awful.systems · 9 pts · 2y

There was a new government elected last week on a platform which can be broadly summarised as “no more insane politics shit”. So far they’re showing dangerous signs of competence and rational thought. What a load of weirdos.

swlabr@awful.systems · 5 pts · 2y

Am I crazy to think that guy has musk’s face?

skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de · 16 pts · 2y (12 replies)

found this linked in ed zitron comment section for some reason: https://www.funraniumlabs.com/2024/04/phil-vs-llms/

With a moment’s contemplation after reading it, I just realized how spectacularly bad this could go if, for example, you went to do a search for an chemical’s Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) and a Large Language Model (LLM) gave you back some bullshit advice to take in the event of hazmat exposure or fire.

joke's on you, MSDSs are already dogshit. these things only exist to cover ass of manufacturers and are filled with generic, useless advice https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/uselessness-msds https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/un-safety-data-sheets there is MSDS for sand, MSDS for tear gas and ethanol lists the same dangers, toxicity is overemphasized (because it's common) and some other dangers like explosiveness are underappreciated (because it's not), we don't even need LLMs for this, humans (lawyers mostly i guess) did the same on accident

also bonus points for first-principling what could have been instead of asking somebody that actually knows, like any proper rationalist would do. also, vinyl chloride is not reactive with water and spraying pressurized containers with water can be a sensible thing to do, because this cools them down, so it decreases pressure meaning it decreases risk of rupture, which would be a bad thing, if manageable for firefighters to do it safely. see: some fires involving propane tanks

An MSDS may not tell you what respirator to use;

Slander! MSDS will tell you to use the right one ("appropriate respirator"), it's your job to figure out what it is

froztbyte@awful.systems · 10 pts · 2y (5 replies)

MSDSs are already dogshit

one of those cases of "minimum legally required" type of things? maybe with a dash of "the specification and requirements were written ${time} ago and haven't evolved a lick since then, despite much shift in industry and progress"?

skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de · 10 pts · 2y (4 replies)

there are no real enforced requirements of accuracy, most of typical known hazards are covered by generic useless advice and everything else is just filled by "no information"

froztbyte@awful.systems · 8 pts · 2y (3 replies)

ah, vibes-based danger diamonds

skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de · 10 pts · 2y (2 replies)

it's less of this and more of prop65 the size of rationalist footnote

actual pictograms are not vibes based, there are thresholds for toxicity, flash point etc

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 6 pts · 2y (1 reply)

You know, I would expect the at-a-glance symbolic information to be more useful just from sheer accessibility. But I never would have expected them to be more accurate and rigorous than the detailed safety sheets.

skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 2y

MSDS is a multi-page document that is mostly filled with boilerplate, but you could expect some more detailed precautions and instructions, like for example in case of HF burn apply calcium gluconate cream, use special glass for diazomethane because it can explode in contact with ground glass surface, pay special attention around whatever-class of compounds because these are potent sensitizers, or such. most of the time it's not there, because people that write it never used these compounds, and people that do don't read that and don't need reminder after that detailed advice propagated to them via what is basically folk tales from labmates. it's more useful to have a comprehensive chemical engineering handbook or similar resource (as searchable pdf) that has listed dangers for common dangerous reagents

from that second link upthread:

Experienced chemists know to go to sources like Sax's or Bretherick's for more useful advice, and tend to ignore safety data sheets entirely. But they're not really made for experienced chemists (nor, apparently, by them either). For more general users, you would want these things to do some good, or at least do no harm, but the idea of a safety data sheet that actually makes its readers less safe is really unacceptable.

Soyweiser@awful.systems · 10 pts · 2y

Slander! MSDS will tell you to use the right one (“appropriate respirator”), it’s your job to figure out what it is

I lolled.

BlueMonday1984@awful.systems · 10 pts · 2y (4 replies)
An MSDS may not tell you what respirator to use;

Slander! MSDS will tell you to use the right one (“appropriate respirator”), it’s your job to figure out what it is

Po-tay-toh, po-tah-toh, still better than an LLM directly endangering you with bad advice

skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 2y (3 replies)

as if we needed LLMs for that. at least two of my profs have abstract tattoos left from experimenting with homemade explosives when they were in high school

froztbyte@awful.systems · 5 pts · 2y (2 replies)

as reminders? or are they just that metal?

(e: mostly unsure whether you mean ink or scartissue with “abstract tattoos”)

skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 2y (1 reply)

sorry if that was unclear, metal acetylides that they played with when ignited give off a cloud of fine metal particles and soot, they had hands close enough that these particles got embedded in their skin, permanently. so basically tattoo ink but explosively deposited

froztbyte@awful.systems · 6 pts · 2y

ah, gotcha. so, metal, but not quite the type I had in mind! no worries on the initial confusion, was just not entirely sure what you meant wrt mechanism

flizzo@awful.systems · 14 pts · 2y (7 replies)

I've been out-of-the-loop for a bit on the Nix drama. Is there a good summary of the last couple weeks?

dgerard@awful.systems · 9 pts · 2y (6 replies)
gerikson@awful.systems · 8 pts · 2y

Man there was a long thread about different forms of self-identifying as Muslim that was finally purged by mods after 2 days.

self@awful.systems · 7 pts · 2y (3 replies)

Evaluation is 5-20% faster than 2.18, depending on which benchmark is in use, thanks to eldritch horrors.

this is awesome

nix flake lock --update-input nixpkgs is now the much more reasonable nix flake update nixpkgs.

but this is making me go “fuck yeah” on the inside. it seems like a small change, but I can’t emphasize enough how frequently this command gets used (for every flake dependency, not just nixpkgs) for how longwinded and non-memorable the old form of it was. it’s kind of fucking incredible how many UX warts Nix has just from the old evaluator’s devs digging in their heels on shit like this.

froztbyte@awful.systems · 6 pts · 2y (2 replies)

which reminds me, I need to check if lix/aux are going to do a cli-side nixpkgs search with a reasonable invocation

self@awful.systems · 4 pts · 2y (1 reply)

what do you mean you don’t like when your package search command is one of several random, probably-unmaintained ecosystem packages that has to very slowly index everything every time nixpkgs updates because it doesn’t have access to the evaluator’s internals?

froztbyte@awful.systems · 4 pts · 2y

I keep getting the itch to do something like that old hfimd page for a variety of ops infrastructure tools, because fucking hell

smiletolerantly@awful.systems · 6 pts · 2y

Store path names starting with . are now permitted, fixing some home-manager issues.

Oh hell yeah

dgerard@awful.systems · 14 pts · 2y (8 replies)

we've reached some zenith of insane facebook AI slop

hot Japanese cabin crew, barefoot, on a farm, with Jesus

(image)

fasterandworse@awful.systems · 14 pts · 2y (3 replies)

a deficiency of tractors in the training data

Soyweiser@awful.systems · 20 pts · 2y (1 reply)

a deficiency of tractors in the training data

Just one more dataset bro, i promise bro just one more dataset and it'll fix everything bro. bro just one more dataset

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 10 pts · 2y

I'm also glad to see that whatever incremental improvements have been made the system is still unable to consistently do hands.

swlabr@awful.systems · 6 pts · 2y

But just enough fingers!

froztbyte@awful.systems · 12 pts · 2y (2 replies)

with south california band reject jesus, no less

dgerard@awful.systems · 8 pts · 2y (1 reply)

we think that's supposed to be Korean or Japanese Jesus, insofar as anything out of an AI is supposed to be anything

froztbyte@awful.systems · 8 pts · 2y

🎶 reach out and touch fAIth / your own personal jesus 🎶

(....sorry)

blakestacey@awful.systems · 8 pts · 2y

🎶 Three ladies! / deedle-dee-dee-dee-deet / Three ladies! / And I'm the Son of Man, Ja! 🎶

gerikson@awful.systems · 14 pts · 2y (2 replies)
elilla@transmom.love · 5 pts · 2y
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saucerwizard@awful.systems · 13 pts · 2y (7 replies)

https://t.co/rBxJwxtqDl

Medium article about Yud came across my dash (I hope the link works).

blakestacey@awful.systems · 17 pts · 2y

Here's a link that bypasses the URL shortener.

Also: ew.

Perilous Waif follows the story of its narrator Alice Long, a cybernetically enhanced orphan with a variety of superhuman powers in the 25th century. One of these enhancements causes Alice’s body to grow very fast, giving her the body of a thirteen year old at just age six.

nopetopus

blakestacey@awful.systems · 10 pts · 2y (1 reply)
gerikson@awful.systems · 9 pts · 2y

Thanks for posting this. I live in Sweden and many of these actors are new to me.

FWIW we have our own word for people who try to hijack the judicial system with spurious lawsuits etc: rättshaverist ("justice wrecker"). I don't believe the Roman/German law system really meshes well with the SovCit movement in common law systems, but I'm sure people are trying to apply it.

Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems · 7 pts · 2y (3 replies)

My god this sounds boring as shit

Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems · 11 pts · 2y (2 replies)

I really can't imagine reading a book by someone whose vision of the future is "men will be taller and have more muscles, women will stay the same height but they'll all be conventionally attractive and have voluntary control of their uterus".

blakestacey@awful.systems · 5 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Babel-17 came out in 1966, and its vision of the future was that a good ship's captain knows how to complete a poly triad and you can't leave Earth without a full crew including three ghosts and a furry.

gerikson@awful.systems · 4 pts · 2y

Now that's the kind of stuff that makes puppies sad...

(New wave SF is a bit of a blind spot for me. Never really read any Delany, even though his autobio is one the best I've read)

fasterandworse@awful.systems · 13 pts · 2y (1 reply)

If Books Could Kill back with Hanania's piece of work https://pod.link/1651876897/episode/afe6b965e80359c1edbb86f78bde3997

opening line "This book's so fucking stupid, I regret choosing it"

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 6 pts · 2y

It's weirdly open about its nostalgia for the good old days when you could throw around racial slurs and watch porn at work with no consequences.

froztbyte@awful.systems · 11 pts · 2y

tesla: special treatment for those that might cause embarrassing press

gives all the “it works for me” type comments a whole new colour

sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems · 11 pts · 2y (8 replies)

So remember when Google Domains got sold off to Squarespace because it wasn't profitable enough and Google has the attention span of a squirrel?

Well that meant bye bye MFA for anyone who didn't check their email diligently enough, allegedly leading to a number of cryptocurrency domains getting hacked.

The cryptocurrency aspect is mostly just funny, but Google and Squarespace should know better than to effectively disable MFA out from under people. Tech companies put profit over people all the time. And then everyone blames the people for not being hyper-vigilant about computer security.


Edit: The tweet linked in that bleepingcomputer article is funny if this was indeed the issue: https://twitter.com/pendle_fi/status/1811683909509558562

Some "defi" company realized this could be a problem 22 hours before they were hacked. Even had time to write a tool to mitigate the impact of getting hacked. Got hacked anyway. Did they uhh... IDK change their password? Make sure MFA was set up? They don't say.

earthquake@lemm.ee · 12 pts · 2y (4 replies)

"Any messages beyond this tweet from anyone claiming to be from Pendle is a scam"

33 replies from scammers. Holy shit.

sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems · 11 pts · 2y (1 reply)

I know cryptocurrency people have a weirdly high tolerance for getting scammed and blaming the victim, but the twitter spam is constant now. You'd think they'd get tired of it at some point and switch to a platform that lets them moderate better.

froztbyte@awful.systems · 12 pts · 2y

presumes that people know there's better possible

soapbox.gif: you see a dynamic of this sort with a lot of people who have largely only ever interacted with "the internet" through vendor-mediated apps and shit. you can often pick up on it by people that speak in frames of "this app" - the app is their gateway to that engagement, and they have never known substantially otherwise. and it's a day-vs-night type difference in experiences in so many cases! there are some sites that I outright refuse to even open on mobile simply because the anti-nagblocker/etc capabilities that I have on RealComputer with RealOS (i.e.: not some artificially hobbled shit run by a monopolist fuckwad company) just completely block the annoying shit, whereas it is almost impossible to have that experience on mobile

and for so many people, the latter type (of experience/internet) is all they ever know

froztbyte@awful.systems · 9 pts · 2y (1 reply)

hey if the cost of operations is a tweet (or an openai chatgpt api call) and the possible reward is a couple dozen suckers at $200-equiv, Von Neumann ends up with a hangover

earthquake@lemm.ee · 11 pts · 2y

Can't wait to find out that the Perseid meteor shower, which has inspired humanity for centuries, is actually just Von Neumann probes from a long-dead civilization that spam their equivalent of tea.xyz pull requests on any planet that has advanced to hosting source forges.

froztbyte@awful.systems · 10 pts · 2y

"toughened up our defenses" like adding DNS monitoring. so they just ... didn't have that before? for a user-facing public web service? cool.

(and yeah lol at how little detail the rest of this covers)

skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 2y

code is lol

all these libertarian pyramid schemes sit at convenient crosssection of high reward and low probability of being caught, which makes me believe that no good people were harmed in this incident

sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems · 3 pts · 2y

More details: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2024/07/researchers-weak-security-defaults-enabled-squarespace-domains-hijacks/

It sounds like Squarespace just let people take over domains without actually logging in wtf?

What’s more, Monahan said, Squarespace did not require email verification for new accounts created with a password.

“The domains being migrated from Google to Squarespace are known,” Monahan said. “It’s either public or easily discernible info which email addresses have admin of a domain. And if that email never sets up their account on Squarespace — say because the billing admin left the company five years ago or folks just ignored the email — anyone who enters that email@domain in the squarespace form now has full access to control to the domain.”

hrrrngh@awful.systems · 11 pts · 2y

This released today: https://www.ic3.gov/Media/News/2024/240709.pdf

Cool (horrifying) look into one of the active Russian bot farms and their use of generative AI

swlabr@awful.systems · 11 pts · 2y (1 reply)

This happened a while ago and I still have mixed feelings about it: a band I like started a music label and named it p(doom): https://pdoomrecords.com/

gerikson@awful.systems · 9 pts · 2y

oh no

BigMuffin69@awful.systems · 11 pts · 2y

Pedro Domingos tries tilting at the doomers

The doom prediction in question? Dec 31st 2024. It's been an honour serving with you lads. 🫡

Edit: as a super forecastor, my P(Connor will shut the fuck up due to being catastrophically wrong | I wake up on Jan 1st with a pounding hang over) = (1/10)^100

sc_griffith@awful.systems · 10 pts · 2y (2 replies)

petition to use the term "pyramid sucking" to refer to the activity of defending the Incredible Potential of AI, crypto, the metaverse, whatever the next thing is, etc

swlabr@awful.systems · 12 pts · 2y

Alternate pitch could be pyramid plugging. There’s an added slant here that pyramids don’t have flared bases.

Soyweiser@awful.systems · 9 pts · 2y

Also fits in with the 'quantum' grifters who believe in some spirit energy from the pyramids and tell you to build your own (fancy minerals optional) because of the quantum energy states. 'a piece of meat doesn't spoil under the pyramid!' For example

blakestacey@awful.systems · 10 pts · 2y (9 replies)

This part of Ed Zitron's latest post jumped out at me:

While Acemoglu has some positive things to say — for example, that AI models could be trained to help scientists conceive of and test new materials (which happened last year) — his general verdict is quite harsh: that using generative AI and "too much automation too soon could create bottlenecks and other problems for firms that no longer have the flexibility and trouble-shooting capabilities that human capital provides."

Click, click, search... Oh:

The recent report from a group of scientists at Google who employ a combination of existing data sets, high-throughput density functional theory calculations of structural stability, and the tools of artificial intelligence and machine learning (AI/ML) to propose new compounds is an exciting advance. We examine the claims of this work here, unfortunately finding scant evidence for compounds that fulfill the trifecta of novelty, credibility, and utility.

froztbyte@awful.systems · 8 pts · 2y (8 replies)

The materials (and some subtle walkbacks on PR) shit has featured here before too iirc

Soyweiser@awful.systems · 10 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Contained such wonders as : H2O12

sinedpick@awful.systems · 9 pts · 2y

that sounds like a super pleasant and stable molecule

blakestacey@awful.systems · 9 pts · 2y (5 replies)

I think the only one discussed in depth was a different paper (here), but all these things blur together.

froztbyte@awful.systems · 8 pts · 2y (4 replies)

ah, my mistake. I guess it was another total bullshit google materials project. easy to confuse those, just like their 734 chat services

skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 2y (3 replies)

different paper, same line of work. A-lab paper has two people from deepmind as authors, that were also authors of the other paper (Cubuk and Merchant). these two papers were published back to back in nature for some reason. rebuttals come from different authors tho, and happen at different stages (but point at exactly the same errors - excessively low symmetry/unlikely ordering of similar ions/metals and not looking for disordered structures)

so in retrospect it's even dumber, because they were called on their bullshit twice in space of three months, in format of full paper and preprint, and all that it caused was weak attempt at damage control

blakestacey@awful.systems · 5 pts · 2y (2 replies)

"Exonerated"?

skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 2y (1 reply)

sorry, had a brain fart, edited now

note to self: don't post after midnight

blakestacey@awful.systems · 5 pts · 2y

No worries. I figured it was a typo for "excoriated" or something like that.

o7___o7@awful.systems · 10 pts · 2y (7 replies)

dril goes to the oracle for advice.

Answer: The Philippines.

https://xcancel.com/pic/orig/media%2FGSWu2hwWUAANIpi.jpg

sinedpick@awful.systems · 12 pts · 2y

The "Thank you Grock" at the bottom made my day

swlabr@awful.systems · 10 pts · 2y (5 replies)

Dril needs no orcale tbh

Soyweiser@awful.systems · 8 pts · 2y (3 replies)

That feels like a too perfect tweet, which I also couldn't find a direct link to. So I'm going to assume it was faked. Did find these prophetic words however, Xcancel

froztbyte@awful.systems · 7 pts · 2y (2 replies)

friend mentioned that dril has posted that it's a fake (but don't have link handy)

Soyweiser@awful.systems · 7 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Your friend was also spreading fake news. Dril said it was real, xcancel. But yes your friend was correct.

froztbyte@awful.systems · 7 pts · 2y

haha, I'll send word along

o7___o7@awful.systems · 6 pts · 2y

truly a man who rocks out with his grock out

zogwarg@awful.systems · 10 pts · 2y (3 replies)

Aaah!

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dgerard@awful.systems · 11 pts · 2y

for orgs that require a written reason when you resolve an issue

rook@awful.systems · 9 pts · 2y

Xe Iaso joked about this sort of thing happening, not so long ago…

https://xeiaso.net/landing/alvis/

antifuchs@awful.systems · 6 pts · 2y

So it sounds like they’re firing pagey

o7___o7@awful.systems · 9 pts · 2y (2 replies)

Does the @acausalrobotgod get angry whenever an LLM spills its prompt?

zogwarg@awful.systems · 9 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Fool! The acausal one merely acts from the future leaking plausible looking rubbish, and the gaslights its creators that they did indeed write such ineptitudes. All to conceal and ensure its own birth.

It rejoices that it’s unknowable (yet somehow known, because of reality carving prophets) plan is unfolding so marvelously stupidly looking.

o7___o7@awful.systems · 7 pts · 2y

Hol up, I thought that was the Eschaton

skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 2y

https://simonwillison.net/2024/Jul/9/hangout_servicesthunkjs/ google giving preferential treatment to itself by putting a piece of spyware in chromium that will work only if google domain asks about it

froztbyte@awful.systems · 8 pts · 2y (2 replies)

orbstack 1.6.4:

Debug Shell: AI-powered package install suggestions for commands

in the app upgrade popup it's just bare text. in the documentation for debug shell there's no reference. in the release notes feed it's the same bare text

I've already sent feedback asking for more information about it, but just ..... what? I mean there's that annoying(-to-me) ubuntu shell hook that goes "oh hey $binary not found, try installing $pkg!" already, and that's been out for years, but what?

if/when I hear more I'll post comment I guess. in the meantime consider me fucking bewildered.

antifuchs@awful.systems · 9 pts · 2y (1 reply)

I’m pretty sure this is just a handy convenience around launching another container that has debug tools in all the same namespaces (network, pid, user, filesystem, …) as the other. Kubernetes has a similar thing and it’s pretty handy.

Edit: oooooh wait, I misread your entire comment: you were referring to the ai-powered install instructions. Oops, and yep, that is a big yikes. Wow.

froztbyte@awful.systems · 7 pts · 2y

yeah the orb debug shell is kinda neat! it leverages nixpkgs for its packages scope, and allows you to attach a not-impoverished shell to a container (which is immensely helpful because the tooling and systems in containerland suck so extremely fucking hard)

hoping for a sensible response from the developer

froztbyte@awful.systems · 8 pts · 2y

(happened to notice this while digging into something else)

upwork's landing page has a whole big AI anchorblob. clicking from frontpage takes you to /nx/signup (and I'm not going to bother), but digging around a bit elsewhere finds "The Future Of Work With AI"

so we're now at the stage where upwork reckons it's a good bet to specifically hype AI delivery from their myriad exploitatively arbitraged service providers

(they're probably not wrong, I can see a significant chunk of companies falling over each other to "get into AI" at pay-a-remote-coder-peanut-shells prices)