I need some help @openstreetmap.
UPDATE: Thanks for all the help!
What do I do, if a business has closed down, and then a new business has taken over the same place?
Do I mark the previous business as “does not exist” and add the new one, or do I edit the existing one?
10 Comments
simon@en.osm.town · 17 pts · 2y
@danish @openstreetmap in general edit the existing one, all elements in OSM are versioned and it is considered best practice to maintain the history of objects.
simon@en.osm.town · 9 pts · 2y
@danish @openstreetmap naturally I do have to add one nerdy and nitpicking observation. It is actually "nearly all elements in OSM", as versioning was introduced with API 0.6 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_changes_between_v0.5_and_v0.6 in March 2009, elements deleted before that date are literally gone.
foxy@en.osm.town · 1 pts · 2y
@simon @danish @openstreetmap
But only when it is the same object. If it was a POI marked on the map as a node, then it is better to delete the old node and create a new one.
Otherwise we will get something like this: https://osm.org/node/2/history
simon@en.osm.town · 5 pts · 2y
@foxy @danish @openstreetmap you need to differentiate between reusing existing nodes for other purposes (as in your example), which irl works against preserving history, and using an existing element for a new or different facility in the same place (there is some grey area there obviously).
giggls@karlsruhe-social.de · 7 pts · 2y
@danish @openstreetmap Edit the existing one to preserve object history. Good practice ist to change shop=something to disused:shop=something. This way the object can be re-tagged again as shop=somethingnew if it re-opens. If it just re-opens just skip the disused step.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 2y
Delete the old business and create the new business. Alternatively you can change the information to match the new business.
infeeeee@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 2y
Please don't delete and recreate if you can. Keeping the history of points is useful, if you delete a point you will delete its history. Wiki article with more details: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Keep_the_history
redd@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 2y
Good article.
@infeeeee: Regarding deletion of history. Not sure if you simplified, but its not true that deletion of a point will delete its history.
As the article states
It is just harder to find after deletion.
InsertUser@en.osm.town · 3 pts · 2y
@redd @infeeeee
much harder to find
redd@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 2y
True! And the "Chronic" feature on www.openstreetmap.org is not really helpful for searching deleted nodes.