35 crypto companies made a Change Dot Org petition called "Bitcoin Deserves an Emoji"
F that
Sign this one instead: "Bitcoin is Stupid and Does Not Deserve an Emoji": https://www.change.org/bitcoin-is-stupid
Petition: Bitcoin is Stupid and Does Not Deserve an Emoji
109 Comments
tiramichu@lemm.ee · 123 pts · 2y
Emojis should be purely generic, and not represent an individual product or service.
No apple logo. No BMW logo. Generic.
Imagine if every brand had a fucking emoji, what a wasteland that would be. And then in years to come the unicode character space is littered with dead brands that have gone the way of the dinosaur but still living on in emoji form like digital trash, because emoji are permanent. There's no taking it out once it's made.
So I'd support an emoji to represent the notion of 'digital currency' but it should be generic, not Bitcoin.
LostXOR@fedia.io · 32 pts · 2y
V0ldek@awful.systems · 17 pts · 2y
lul
froztbyte@awful.systems · 7 pts · 2y
it renders as the co logo on fruitcompany hardware
although now I wanna go check the codepoint to see why it rendered as that on your side
mii@awful.systems · 13 pts · 2y
https://codepoints.net/U+f8ff
lol
FMEEE@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 2y
Jup I can't btw fuck Apple.
EddoWagt@feddit.nl · 11 pts · 2y
We already have a bunch of currency specific emojis, so it's already too late for this notion π±π²π°πͺπ·πΆπ΄π΅πΈ
trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 2y
Bitcoin is not a currency
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 2y
Why not?
EddoWagt@feddit.nl · -12 pts · 2y
Depends on who you ask
banghida@lemm.ee · 23 pts · 2y
It is a good lithmus test indeed.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -6 pts · 2y
Yes it tests whether someone knows what a currency is.
gerikson@awful.systems · 8 pts · 2y
Appealing to Wikipedia is... a choice.
froztbyte@awful.systems · 7 pts · 2y
banghida@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 2y
It says enough about a person's worldview and education if they are serious about bitcoin being a viable currency. Specifically bitcoin. That was my point.
Irelephant@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y
There is a bitcoin unicode symbol though. βΏ
tiramichu@lemm.ee · -7 pts · 2y
A lot of things exist in emoji because of early adopter advantage. A lot of the money stuff is either dollar or yen for this reason because they were first to the table. It's the same reason there are also so many other non-money emoji that represent quite uniquely Japanese cultural concepts in there.
There's a heck of a lot of world currency missing from emoji, but I would never suggest adding them all in. Everyone across the world is quite happy to use emoji with $ on as a synonym for 'money' regardless of what currency they actually use, so that already gets the job done as "generic money symbol"
It works because $ is so culturally ubiquitous.
When it comes to designing a new emoji that represents 'digital currency' we could take a similar approach as with fiat currency and just pick the most well known one (BTC) and roll with it.
But my preference would be to do otherwise, and design a non-specific emoji which represents the concept but without just being an existing logo.
EddoWagt@feddit.nl · 4 pts · 2y
Me neither, I actually think there are way too many emoji already
Wilzax@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2y
π·πΆπ΅π΄ Bitcoin should be an orange note with a βΏ on the left side, just like the other specific currency emojis.
It will piss the crypto bros off that their special Internet money looks the same as fiat
bitofhope@awful.systems · 36 pts · 2y
Why on earth an emoji anyway? $, β¬, Β£ and Β₯ aren't emoji either.
And now that I look, Unicode already has βΏ (U+20BF BITCOIN SIGN). Just use that. Or better yet, don't.
bountygiver@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 2y
o really? π΅πΆπ΄π·
but seeing these are physical representation of those currencies.. bitcoin's emoji can be a usb stick (at least having an actual USB stick emoji can be useful in some cases like when making guides)
swlabr@awful.systems · 32 pts · 2y
We already have π ±οΈ
lobut@lemmy.ca · 28 pts · 2y
we also have π©
atro_city@fedia.io · 10 pts · 2y
ay π ±οΈπ ±οΈ, wan sum fuk?
dgerard@awful.systems · 27 pts · 2y
how did this of all the posts break containment
froztbyte@awful.systems · 9 pts · 2y
crossposting, I think, but I was also π€¨ for a moment there..
froztbyte@awful.systems · 8 pts · 2y
wait no it's not literally crossposted
yeah I got nothing.
smallpatatas@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 2y
I'm sorry π
swlabr@awful.systems · 6 pts · 2y
We assumed too much good faith. Time to lock it down
carlitoscohones@awful.systems · 23 pts · 2y
Potatisen@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 2y
Who gives an actual fuck?
michael@westergaard.social · 26 pts · 2y
a change.org petition, for or against bitcoin, is the perfect manifestation of bitcoin: entirely pointless
aasatru@kbin.earth · 16 pts · 2y
Well.
Step one. Bitcoin gets emoji.
Step two. Young people and other folks with fragile minds think it's legit because it has an emoji.
Step three. Poor people lose their money.
Outcome: The rich get rich, the poor stay poor.
Alternatively: Step one. Bitcoin gets emoji.
Step two. Young people and other folks with fragile minds think it's legit because it has an emoji.
Step three. Crypto currencies keep burning through resources as if it was a Brazilian rainforest.
Outcome: The few lucky ones will feel really stupid living in their bunkers after the collapse.
FireTower@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
π€―: me when β¦οΈ, βͺοΈ, β―οΈ, βΈοΈ, βοΈ, ποΈ, β‘οΈ all have emojis making each one legitimate.
They're stupid internet pictures people aren't going to make financial decisions off of them.
aasatru@kbin.earth · 8 pts · 2y
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion
They're all legitimate, doesn't make them factual.
laughterlaughter@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
There is also an emoji for thieves. A cute one, even. Will young people start living that thug life because of the emoji?
zbyte64@awful.systems · 16 pts · 2y
How do you think the whole "be gay, do crimes" started? /s
lemmytellyousomething@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -3 pts · 2y
What exactly is your definition of legitimate?
Potatisen@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 2y
laughterlaughter@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 2y
ebu@awful.systems · 20 pts · 2y
have some entirely non-political emojis:
π³οΈ: BALLOT BOX WITH BALLOT
πΉπΌ: FLAG: TAIWAN
π΅πΈ: FLAG: PALESTINIAN TERRITORIES
π½: STATUE OF LIBERTY
π€‘: FACE OF "NON-POLITICAL" PERSON
laughterlaughter@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 2y
dgerard@awful.systems · 6 pts · 2y
this isn't debate club, come back later
self@awful.systems · 6 pts · 2y
addendum to what my co-admin said: donβt come back later, these posts are so fucking terrible I donβt want them in my database
laughterlaughter@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Fair enough. Apologies.
Evinceo@awful.systems · 3 pts · 2y
When does it just become free advertising though? Should McDonald's get an arches emoji?
laughterlaughter@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Fair point. However, I don't think bitcoin represents one single company, though.
the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 2y
zbyte64@awful.systems · 6 pts · 2y
If scientology had an emoji then the comparison would be apt.
laughterlaughter@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 2y
lemmytellyousomething@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -7 pts · 2y
There is a wine emoji.... There is a cigarette emoji...
People with fragile mind could think that it's perfectly healthy to consume that stuff.............
There is even a bomb emoji....... People with fragile mind could......
Edit: Thanks for the dislikes. Negativity is way better than sharing arguments!!!!!111
self@awful.systems · 8 pts · 2y
yeah youβre annoying as fuck and we donβt need your posts
saltesc@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
There's people out there that don't think emojis are as stupid as Bitcoin. Or maybe it's the other way around. Either way, there's some people out there and they're wrong.
aasatru@kbin.earth · 7 pts · 2y
π€
blindbunny@lemmy.ml · 19 pts · 2y
Bitcoin has an emoji but moths don't... Wtf
Blisterexe@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 2y
It doesnt have an emoji yet
aasatru@kbin.earth · 18 pts · 2y
Nice.
self@awful.systems · 17 pts · 2y
adding this to your post will get you laughed at and then banned
oo1@lemmings.world · 16 pts · 2y
Bitcoin is stupid and therefore deserves an emoji. It is not worthy of ascii-art. (_!_)
Edit , this shitty webpage doesn't support ascii-art. Re-edit, needed to add escape characters, true art is always born out of struggle.
SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee · 8 pts · 2y
Is...that supposed to be a butthole or a theigh gap
dgerard@awful.systems · 6 pts · 2y
a butt, per the logo of this sub
SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 2y
Yea but the exclamation has a dot for an asshole or something. That's what I'm asking about
blindbunny@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 2y
BlueMonday1984@awful.systems · 14 pts · 2y
On the one hand, Bitcoin as an emoji would be basically useless.
On the other hand, it could work as an easy shorthand for "scam"
andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 2y
robux emoji when?
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 2y
crime coin should be banned since its only use case is illegal activity
0laura@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
I thought lemmy would be the kind of place that'd support ways to pay for things that don't need to be approved by a government. not all laws are just.
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Theoretically: I love the idea of bitcoin.
Realistically: it requires exchanges, large amounts of power, etc.
Plus, governments have little interest in making illegal behavior easy. Many of the economic costs of bitcoin are that its an easy way to make stolen goods inaccessible.
If all bitcoin had to be purchased and sold in cash without credit cards or electronic banking I think it would make far more sense as a form of e-cash. But as it is, I think it damages society more than it benefits - which is the easiest justification for outright banning commercial usage of it.
0laura@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
monero >> Bitcoin. it's a lot more scalable and until recently you could easily buy it with cash
programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -6 pts · 2y
You can't ban the roads because smugglers use them
dgerard@awful.systems · 18 pts · 2y
we can ban the crime coin because literally the coiners themselves admit it's crime coin and that that's a problem for crime coin
also roads are useful for non-criming and crime coin isn't
programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -8 pts · 2y
Yes, I agree there is a stigma around bitcoin because of the amount of scams and ransomware that is around them but I don't want to delegitimize decentralized currency.
Currently the options are really bad because of the amount of resources they consume and their use as an investment option. I really wish there could be an option to have money outside of government control.
sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems · 20 pts · 2y
I agree decentralized currency is great.
All I need is some quarters and I can start my laundry without waiting half an hour for the centralized blockchain ledger's global state to acknowledge the transaction.
programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -3 pts · 2y
That's true, cash can be a more private alternative to electronic transactions but I also want an electronic counterpart, something with private and public keys. I am not knowledgeable enough on currencies and transactions to know how the system would work
rook@awful.systems · 5 pts · 2y
Happily there are plenty of good examples of how such a system would work in practise⦠Web3 is Going Just Great, Attack of the 50 Foot Blockchain or Amy Castor perhaps.
programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 2y
Blockchain will never be a good system of private transactions as it takes too many resources to run it and you have to fork it all of the time because the chains get too heavy. That much I know and agree with.
I want an alternative and currently after the grift made because of crypto, no one wants to innovate in a private and decentralized currency. In truth, I haven't searched that much for an alternative.
Irelephant@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y
Like gnu taler?
programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 1y
Seems to be what I was suggesting and it doesn't even need blockchain. Another area that doesn't need the blockchain I guess
dgerard@awful.systems · 10 pts · 2y
here in the world, money is a function of society
Evinceo@awful.systems · 6 pts · 2y
Define control
programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 2y
Knowing the where, who and why of every transaction. In other chain I agree cash is a good alternative but without an electronic component that I would prefer.
o7___o7@awful.systems · 18 pts · 2y
Aktually, you can't ban roads because normal people use them
Shawdow194@kbin.run · -8 pts · 2y
Ban cash then! BTC isnt a holy grail but a deregulated international currency isnt a bad idea
dgerard@awful.systems · 12 pts · 2y
boy was that a quick exit
fasterandworse@awful.systems · 9 pts · 2y
What the fuck happened here?
smallpatatas@lemm.ee · 10 pts · 2y
i dont know i just posted a silly thing and all hell broke loose π
fasterandworse@awful.systems · 11 pts · 2y
The fediverse has randomly placed wormholes
dgerard@awful.systems · 9 pts · 2y
don't worry you can't break the fediverse it comes pre-broken for your inconvenience
V0ldek@awful.systems · 8 pts · 2y
π€π° ?
toothpaste_sandwich@feddit.nl · 5 pts · 2y
Very good and well made
zout@fedia.io · 1 pts · 2y
Maybe a hot take, but I think emojis are stupid, so maybe bitcoin deserves one after all?
V0ldek@awful.systems · 6 pts · 2y
Really curious on what grounds, like is the entire idea of a pictogram stupid?
zout@fedia.io · 4 pts · 2y
I'm 48 years old, so I didn't grow up with them. I do think some of them have their place though, but there's quite a lot of novelty emojis. So I guess that I'm an old guy who only likes the old ascii emoticons.
swlabr@awful.systems · 10 pts · 2y
π‘π€βοΈ
zout@fedia.io · 4 pts · 2y
π«΅
Evinceo@awful.systems · 6 pts · 2y
π―πππΌππ πππ ππ ±πΌπππͺπππ’π΄ vs π€π€π€ π€π€π€π€π€
froztbyte@awful.systems · 3 pts · 2y
βuncle samβ¦β
Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de · -1 pts · 2y
PUNCH THE FART
mawhrin@awful.systems · 2 pts · 2y
π
i'm fifty, and you're full of it.
laughterlaughter@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
Emojis are not stupid when used well. They help add more context to a text.
If people use emojis stupidly, chances are they'll use "the alphabet" stupidly as well if there were no emojis. As in "lol like wat de eff amirite anyway bei felicia!"
glimse@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2y
Bro said emojis aren't stupid πππ
... I'm so sorry for that. I don't disagree with you at all
laughterlaughter@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
haha I don't understand your comment. Why are you sorry while agreeing with me??
Edit: I got it now.
glimse@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Because I used emoji in an annoying way as a joke lol
laughterlaughter@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Oh, hehe, I got it now π
ElliotCross@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 2y
froztbyte@awful.systems · 2 pts · 2y
for those playing the drinking game, that's a shot combined with a scrabble triple score combined with a jinx
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 2y
Silly emojis and joke emojis are good, though.