TIL that on the day he was assassinated at least nine of Kennedy’s Secret Service agents were recovering from an all night bender that ended at 5:00 AM

https://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/jfk-secret-service-agents-too-hungover-to-react.amp

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ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works · 45 pts · 2y (14 replies)

What could they have done to prevent what happened?

themeatbridge@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 2y

Is it possible that one or more might have swept the book depository, or the grassy knoll?

relative_iterator@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 2y (12 replies)

There’s a theory that one of them accidentally shot JFK after Oswald’s initial shot. They could have not done that.

daqu@feddit.org · 15 pts · 2y (1 reply)

The president cannot be killed by an assassin, if his bodyguard kills him first. Thinking outside the box. Great job!

Iapar@feddit.org · 3 pts · 2y
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roofuskit@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2y (9 replies)

It's pretty well proven that Oswald alone did the job.

Doom@ttrpg.network · -11 pts · 2y (8 replies)

No it isn't.

Why did the first round put a hole in his neck and the second one blow his head apart?

CTDummy@lemm.ee · 11 pts · 2y (1 reply)

There’s a channel called Lemmimo that did a pretty interesting documentary on it that explains it. Also explains a lot of the reasoning behind popular conspiracies and why some of them are obvious bunk. Dude is very talented only came across the video a couple days ago due to his music he made for the video.

Doom@ttrpg.network · 1 pts · 2y

I will check it out the Kennedy conspiracy is a classic

ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 2y

For one, hitting a neck won't cause a bullet to expand, but hitting a skull would.

roofuskit@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2y (2 replies)

This as all been explained. I'm not a ballistics expert so I can't give you the details. But they have recreated these wounds exactly with ballistic gel and a recreation of the vehicle. No magic bullet nonsense. All straight shots into a moving vehicle and the difference in wound height of the two victims is explained by the fact that one was in a fold down jump seat that sat lower. One shooter, one rifle.

Doom@ttrpg.network · -6 pts · 2y (1 reply)

What are you even talking about a magic bullet for?

It is a simple question of ballistics, entrance wounds vs exit wounds.

First shot into the upper back does not match the second shot into the skull.

Wouldn't he have a gaping hole either in his upper back or throat similar to the damage done to his skull?

The second shot doesn't match the first that's always been the question

WoahWoah@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2y

Take a screwdriver and stab ballistic gel. Then take a screwdriver and, with the same force, stab an ice cube. Notice a difference in how the substance responds to the force?

It's quite possible not to encounter anything hard (bone) going through a neck or chest. A skull not so much.

lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 2y

Try hitting a steak with a hammer, then try hitting an egg.

Akasazh@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 2y

A friend's brother, who was in forensics, explained it to me like this:

If a head gets hit by a bullet, the shockwave op the bullet traveling through the brain can bounce off the skull and blow back out the entry wound (and make the head snap backwards instead). I gotta go with that as he's the most relyable source I've spoken to myself.

buzz86us@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y

Damn maybe the guy on 1985 should have just called in a threat

Dagwood222@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 2y

If there had been the massive conspiracy everyone imagines, at least one of the people involved would have left a deathbed confession.

"Deep Throat" was one guy and they couldn't kept his identity covered up.