c/conservative · by Amoxtli@thelemmy.club · 2y

“It’s Not OK Any More”: The United Kingdom Cracks Down on Free Speech

https://jonathanturley.org/2024/08/22/the-united-kingdom-unleashes-crackdown-on-free-speech/

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saltesc@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y (5 replies)

A man was convicted for sending a tweet while drunk referring to dead soldiers. Another was arrested for an anti-police t-shirt. Another was arrested for calling the Irish boyfriend of his ex-girlfriend a “leprechaun.” Yet another was arrested for singing “Kung Fu Fighting.” A teenager was arrested for protesting outside of a Scientology center with a sign calling the religion a “cult.” Last year, Nicholas Brock, 52, was convicted of a thought crime in Maidenhead, Berkshire. The neo-Nazi was given a four-year sentence for what the court called his “toxic ideology” based on the contents of the home he shared with his mother in Maidenhead, Berkshire.

Yeah, none of that is justified. Whether religion, opinion, or ideology, it's your duty to protect everyone's right to them, just as it's your duty to prevent people taking harmful action with them—like any other scenario. There's a big difference in two people yelling their opinions back and forth at each other, and someone planning or insighting crime onto the other because of it. That's why the street preacher can feel as safe as the guy walking past with 666 tattooed on their forehead. They're expressing themselves, not harming anyone, whether their opinion is popular or not.

wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee · -1 pts · 2y (4 replies)

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AstroGnomeical@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 2y

The republican party wouldn't exist without it

saltesc@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y (2 replies)

Which makes sense. Personally, I'd show up to protest and mock them. But wouldn't say they can't be there, that'd be hypocritical of me. I'm sure when I protest for what I think is right, there's a cohort of people that loathe it and think I'm insane too.

wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee · -1 pts · 2y (1 reply)

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barsquid@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y

As early as March 1933, two months after Hitler was appointed Chancellor, the Sturmabteilung began to attack trade union offices without legal consequences. Several union offices were occupied, their furnishings were destroyed, their documents were stolen or burned, and union members were beaten and in some cases killed; the police ignored these attacks and declared itself without jurisdiction.

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The German Labour Front (DAF) was then created in May 1933 as the organization that was to take over the assets seized from the former trade unions. Robert Ley, who had no previous experience in labour relations, was appointed by Hitler to lead the DAF upon its creation. Three weeks later, Hitler issued a decree that banned collective bargaining and stated that a group of labour trustees, appointed by him, would "regulate labour contracts" and maintain "labour peace."

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Labour_Front

MapleEngineer@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y (9 replies)

As in the US "free speech" is a white supremacist code word for hate speech.

Kaboom@reddthat.com · -2 pts · 2y (8 replies)

And what happens when people you don't like are in power and start censoring you?

WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y (7 replies)

You vote. And you make sure you're voting for someone that won't try to fuck over society for their own benefit.

Kaboom@reddthat.com · -2 pts · 2y (6 replies)

So how many elections do think you can guarantee that you won't have someone who might do something with that power you won't like?

WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y (5 replies)

You can't guarantee. But you can look at a candidates statements and the history of the party they represent, to get an understanding of what will happen.

When one candidate says "I'll only be a dictator for one day" and his party doesn't react to this statement, that's a pretty big red flag that your civil rights will be severely eroded if they get into power.

Kaboom@reddthat.com · -3 pts · 2y (4 replies)

So what happens when people vote for someone you don't like?

DarkDecay@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Attack the capital?

Kaboom@reddthat.com · -4 pts · 2y

What would that accomplish?

WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y (1 reply)

I'm not upset when someone uses their democratic right to vote for the person they want.

I'm more upset that we live in a society where people see a person that wants to take away their democratic rights and thinks "Yup, that's the one for me".

wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee · -1 pts · 2y

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