MI5 spy chief says Russia and Iran are behind a 'staggering' rise in deadly plots

https://apnews.com/article/uk-intelligence-mi5-threats-russia-iran-936d7c24d303ffea41f6b1cef7c7b814#

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BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca · 24 pts · 1y (15 replies)

Why people don't think the West is at war right now is beyond me.

We're being attacked economically.

We're being attacked socially.

We're being attacked via proxy countries.

We're even being attacked physically on our own soil.

Russia, Iran, and with some China thrown in the Mix.

The world is at war right now.

Deceptichum@quokk.au · 12 pts · 1y (9 replies)
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InverseParallax@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y (2 replies)

You've never worked in China.

As rough as it is here, you could not imagine a life there, working 2x as hard for 1/2 as much hope.

They just have dramatically lower aspirations, specifically they aspire to live to have kids, at which point it's all their problem.

The reason the West has gotten so much worse is now we have to compete with people who have literally nothing and would kill for 1/10th what we have. They're just as capitalist as we are, they just include more direct violence in their interpretation of capitalism.

Deceptichum@quokk.au · 3 pts · 1y (1 reply)
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InverseParallax@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y

Well then I have some bad news for you, they're a hell of a lot more capitalist than we are.

BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 1y (5 replies)

You think you'd be better as a Chinese or Russian citizen? Because that's the damage they'd like to do to you.

basmatii@lemm.ee · -6 pts · 1y (4 replies)
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BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Sorry, which of those countries do you think have those? The vast majority of Chinese and Russian citizens in what the west would consider absolutely horrible conditions.

basmatii@lemm.ee · -1 pts · 1y
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InverseParallax@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y (1 reply)

You have 0 idea what you're talking about.

Free healthcare? Yeah, I'd rather see an American veterinarian.

basmatii@lemm.ee · -2 pts · 1y
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technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Please don't include me in the white supremacist "we".

Imagine identifying with the "west" to the point that you think the west is the victim of imperialism. smh.

BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 1y

Who said anything about race?

Imagine making this about race, instead of countries.

Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Conversely, the West in general and the US in particular is also

Attacking economically

Attacking socially

Attacking via proxy countries

Attacking people physically on their own soil

And have been doing so since forever, so your apparent narrative of the world's richest and most powerful collection of countries being put upon victims is misguided at best.

technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1y

100%. People really live in some brainwashed, racist bubbles to not understand this.

basmatii@lemm.ee · -4 pts · 1y
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