Sega files patent infringement lawsuit against Memento Mori developer over in-game mechanics, seeking 1 billion yen in damages
https://automaton-media.com/en/news/sega-files-patent-infringement-lawsuit-against-memento-mori-developer-over-in-game-mechanics-seeking-1-billion-yen-in-damages/
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InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works · 110 pts · 1y
Gameplay patents are bullshit.
toiletobserver@lemmy.world · 62 pts · 1y
All
Gameplaypatents are bullshit. Artificial barriers to entry that only restrict market forces in favor of screwing end consumers.metaStatic@kbin.earth · 28 pts · 1y
there can be a very good case made for putting private innovation into the public realm after a period of legal protections, (typically 20 years for most places)
but anything that is public by it's very nature should never be subject to patents
taladar@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 1y
Even for those 20 years it can be incredibly suffocating in fast moving industries like IT. Just look at e.g. the way video codecs got mutilated by patents.
metaStatic@kbin.earth · 2 pts · 1y
I think 3d printers would be the best example.
patents where invented to protect trade secrets with the result of making them public being an unavoidable consequence. I didn't mean to make it sound like I agree with intellectual property of any kind just to say there are good reasons and good outcomes. The internet doesn't tend to be the place to discuss nuance however.
taladar@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y
I think the 20 years are just a bad "one size fits all" value, maybe lawmakers could be convinced to tie it to something like the typical product support lifecycle in the relevant industry. That would give companies that do want long patent protections an incentive to support their products for a longer time, benefiting the end user either way.
Lennny@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Woah who dug up Thomas Edison?
shani66@ani.social · 6 pts · 1y
And also not legal
GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 83 pts · 1y
This shit is somewhat agreeable now, because Pal World is so similar, but once this door is opened, it's never going to let developers have the freedom to invent and innovate, because crusty old bullies want to use the legal system to punish anyone that dares resemble 2-3 decade old game mechanics.
Should platformer games pay royalties to Nintendo for having the first character to jump twice it's height?
Video game companies rent seeking for "game mechanics patents" on old shit is just ironically anti fun.
tal@lemmy.today · 18 pts · 1y
I don't think that you can patent game mechanics in the US, have read about that before, but it sounds like this lawsuit is in Japan, and their IP system may not work the same way.
EDIT: Sorry, I'm wrong. It's that game rules aren't covered by copyright, that's what I was remembering.
Ultraviolet@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y
It's also creating a patent minefield that stifles any game development by people who can't afford the lawyers necessary to navigate it.
GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 1y
That's kinda what I meant, and its something I'm rather worried about.
Noodle07@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y
The more bullshit patents we have the closer we get to patents being abolished I suppose
altima_neo@lemmy.zip · 36 pts · 1y
Damn it Nintendo, you opened the floodgates
Zoldyck@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 1y
Fuck this
Kelly@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 1y
¥ 1 billion equals:
Letstakealook@lemm.ee · 21 pts · 1y
Fuck then both for having lootbox nonsense mobile games. Predatory gambling for digital bullshit.
RiQuY@lemm.ee · 16 pts · 1y
And what part of the game is infringing a patent?
ziviz@lemmy.sdf.org · 27 pts · 1y
I tried checking out that first patent there,
5930111and who boy... is this shit hard to readAnnoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc · 25 pts · 1y
Okay this might fit
SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml · 21 pts · 1y
Fuck off.... that could literally mean anything.... I've read Trump quotes that were more intelligible than that....
Renacles@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1y
How is anyone supposed to proof their work from not only this, but every single other bullshit patent out there?
What the actual fuck
reinei@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1y
Okay what the hell did I just read?
From my very very rough and cursory glance though: wouldn't this also likely be infringed by games such as Genshin Impact for their Auto "fuse" (aka enhancement) selection mechanic or does this patent have some more nuanced/specific thing which everyone else did not implement to skirt around it?
Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 1y
After attempting to read through it, seems like a menu to fuse or combine game objects which contain some form of sorting system as dictated by the player.. So I'm going to assume they mean their phantasy star online 2
weaponitem fusion system.It's such a rough definition that this can only be classified as a patent troll case. Not that they care about hiding that fact.
BonerMan@ani.social · 10 pts · 1y
They all infringe my patent on having fun now give me all the games for free and your companies or ill sue you!
AVincentInSpace@pawb.social · 7 pts · 1y
A couple years ago Sega noticed they could make more money if they copied Nintendo's homework with regard to legal strategy, and the world is the worse for it