If you spend some time looking into it you will realise how badly manjaro is run.
If a team can’t even manage to update their SSL certs in time (which is extremely simple to automate) and multiple times asked their users to set their system date back to solve it I really don’t think they are trustworthy when it comes to scraping user data.
It’s not that I expect them to use the data maliciously, I simply just don’t trust their security procedures when they fail to do something that simple.
And what improvements could come from incompetent fucks knowing your hostname, mac adress, and other identifying information? Aside from improving their financial status that is...
Personally I don't really mind opt out unless the choice isn't clearly presented to people for them to decide.
Like if during installation one of the steps is "share anonymized data" and the switch is in the on position by default, I really don't mind that. Usage data is massively helpful from a UI/UX perspective and in terms of user testing, doubly so for open source projects without as much resources for doing that kind of testing otherwise.
But if it's burried in a settings pannel somewhere, that sucks and doesn't respect user agency
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kionite231@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 1y
When it comes to Foss projects I would gladly give away my data for improvement of the project.
icogniito@lemmy.zip · 21 pts · 1y
But not to manjaro
kersplomp@programming.dev · -6 pts · 1y
Divisive take. And an unpopular one, seeing as manjaro is the fifth most popular linux distribution.
icogniito@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 1y
If you spend some time looking into it you will realise how badly manjaro is run.
If a team can’t even manage to update their SSL certs in time (which is extremely simple to automate) and multiple times asked their users to set their system date back to solve it I really don’t think they are trustworthy when it comes to scraping user data.
It’s not that I expect them to use the data maliciously, I simply just don’t trust their security procedures when they fail to do something that simple.
Shareni@programming.dev · 3 pts · 1y
Based on what, distrowatch? You do realise that's just showing what people clicked on distrowatch, not the actual numbers of users...
Shareni@programming.dev · 11 pts · 1y
And what improvements could come from incompetent fucks knowing your hostname, mac adress, and other identifying information? Aside from improving their financial status that is...
Lemongrab@lemmy.one · 1 pts · 1y
muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee · 9 pts · 1y
If it defaults to dont send anything fine by me.
OwlPaste@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 1y
It's opt out
muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee · 12 pts · 1y
Fuck em. Not that i use manjaro anyways
OwlPaste@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
I do use it... Sad 😢😭
Cris_Color@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
Personally I don't really mind opt out unless the choice isn't clearly presented to people for them to decide.
Like if during installation one of the steps is "share anonymized data" and the switch is in the on position by default, I really don't mind that. Usage data is massively helpful from a UI/UX perspective and in terms of user testing, doubly so for open source projects without as much resources for doing that kind of testing otherwise.
But if it's burried in a settings pannel somewhere, that sucks and doesn't respect user agency
Thats how I feel anyway 🤷♂️
HeckGazer@programming.dev · 8 pts · 1y
Oh for fucks sake. Why must enshitification come for everything
Shareni@programming.dev · 9 pts · 1y
Is it enshitification if it was shit all along?
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 1y
Screams in SSL
Shareni@programming.dev · 1 pts · 1y
Pre installs an AUR helper
Delays base packages so AUR ones break
DDOS AUR
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 1y
On the one hand the AUR should be able to withstand an attack without going down.
On the other hand, you probably shouldn't be the one to cause the problem. I wouldn't be surprised if the AUR has a safeguards now.
Fizz@lemmy.nz · 1 pts · 1y
As long as it's opt in I'd happily give user data to improve ui\ux. But it doesn't seem like it is so good!
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 1y
Manjaro? How about Manjarno