I have just finished the Half-Life series. Prompted by the 20th anniversary of HL2, I decided to play HL1 (1997), then HL2 (2004), and both episodes. I'm currently playing through Black Mesa and it's very enjoyable so far, it's like they took everything from HL1 and removed the annoying parts, I'm excited to see what more changes they decided to make, and what other references are present.
HL1 aged badly imo, but I recognize the technical achievement that it was at the time it was released. It's full of good ideas, and I'm amazed by what they've accomplished.
HL2 didn't feel like a it has a technical leap as big as its predecessor, but the gameplay ideas in there feel more modern than most game 20 years later. The game has some long stretches that were a bit annoying but the whole journey felt worth it. During the last chapter where you get the upgraded gravity gun, I started seeing the seeds of Portal games, more so in Episode 1, it was like I suddenly understood Valve as game devs and their philosophy. Episode 2 was the most fun I had and despite being short it felt like a full fledged campaign.
Alyx was fun to watch on youtube đ€Ą
I'm really happy that I completed the games and can put them down (compared to grinding endlessly in live service games), I'm really glad that I now understand why the series is praised, why people are aching for the third Episode, why Valve backed themselves into a corner because of their technical ambitions.
But now, I want more of this, more of those one of a kind experiences that push the genre forward. More gameplay ideas. I'll probably replay the Portal games, but what other games would you recommend?
Some times, Half Life reminded me of more modern immersive sims I played before (Dishonored, Prey, I'll probably go back to them at some point), maybe Deux Ex, System Shock should be on my list?
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deranger@sh.itjust.works · 40 pts · 1y
Gotta disagree with you on this one. Half Life was basically the Quake 2 engine with different textures and models. It was applauded for being a good game, it did not really set any technical benchmarks.
Half Life 2 was absolutely mind blowing with the physics, facial animations, and shaders. It's the first game I can recall with that level of physics realism, and set the stage for many games to come. The Source engine was a massive technical leap from Quake engine.
Seeing the HL2 E3 demo was a peak moment in my gaming life.
Give the Deus Ex series a try, the story in the original is IMO one of the best, and the later games have awesome stealth and cool world building.
NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee · 29 pts · 1y
Deus Ex and System Shock should definitely be on your list, just skip Deus Ex: Invisible War.
Also, as I don't see them listed, did you check out Blue Shift and Opposing Forces? They're 2 Half-Life expansions made by Gearbox, back in the day, that show the events of HL1 from different points of view.
Walican132@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 1y
Invisible War is fine. It doesnât live up to the orginal but itâs still a good game.
BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org · 7 pts · 1y
Then add Thief 1&2 to the list so that you really get where those two came from. They both still hold up surprisingly well due to fan support.
NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee · 4 pts · 1y
I can't believe I forgot the Thief games! Absolute classics. I need to get around to replaying them sometime soon.
BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 1y
Iâd love to see a System Shock remake type project for them. Itâs not as necessary due to NewDark but would still be nice.
Xabis@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
Hey I liked invisible war :/
inlandempire@jlai.lu · 5 pts · 1y
Thanks! I knew of their existence but didn't know if they were worth it, I think I'll play them a bit later because at some point I was really struggling with the pacing of HL1
lime@feddit.nu · 5 pts · 1y
there is an ongoing project to remake them for black mesa, so if you wait you'll probably get a better experience.
poo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 1y
Opposing Forces is the better of the two, but if you enjoyed the general story/feel of Half-Life, they're definitely worth at least giving a shot.
Zahille7@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Like others keep saying, check out the System Shock remake. It's fantastic.
But also with Black Mesa, another team is remaking Blue Shift within that game, and you can get it as a workshop addon for free. They actually just came out with the next level they've been working on a couple weeks ago. So far, it's pretty damn great imo.
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 1y
I've noticed that no one has mentioned Decay yet. It's a two player coop expansion campaign also made by Gearbox for the Half Life 1 release for PS2. There's a PC port with a singleplayer mode.
Blackout@fedia.io · 27 pts · 1y
Half Life 3 should be out any day now.
mister_newbie@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 1y
It'll be out before Silksong, anyhow.
datavoid@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 1y
Imagine they surprise drop on the same day
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1y
Or they're the same game: HL3: Silksong. Plot:
::: spoiler Secret gameplay leak from Valve Waking Gordon Freeman from stasis ran into complications, so G-man recruits the Knight to control Freeman like Remy controlled Linguini until Freeman regains full control. The first 1/3 of the game plays a bit like Human Fall Flat, with the player fumbling around to hold weapons and whatnot, the second 1/3 the Knight and Freeman are separated and you swap between players, and the final third, Freeman realizes G-man has outfitted him with a bullet-time augmentation, so while bullets are traveling, you can pause time and jump across bullets as the Knight to completely massacre your opponents. :::
Don't tell anyone, it's going to be epic.
Oh, and it'll also come alongside the release of Winds of Winter from GRRM and the final book of The Kingkiller Chronicle by Patrick Rothfuss, though due to the books starting sooner, they didn't combine w/ Valve and Team Cherry on the plot.
Klear@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
It is already out as far as I'm concerned.
dev_null@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 1y
"The outline of a potential story" being out is different from an actual game being out though.
Klear@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Yeah, but I realised this is closure enough for me. Don't need an actual game, just an end to the story.
Pacrat173@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 1y
Anyyy day now anyyy day now
See Half 3!
No wait thatâs half life alyx
LikeTearsInTheRain@lemmynsfw.com · 2 pts · 1y
Project Borealis is a fan led spiritual successor. Unfortunately it's been a slow moving thing for a while. Suppose if this is about patient gaming, might as well be patient about it in case it ever comes out.
ElectroLisa@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 1y
"Half-Life 3 is already out, it's just we're not ready for it yet"
ShadowRam@fedia.io · 16 pts · 1y
Portal 1 and 2
Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 1y
Along that same line, there are great mods for Portal. One of them even adds in a new "time" portal that really breaks your brain.
Qkall@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 1y
Oh sweet, I have something either not suggested or I missed...
titanfall 2's campaigned challenged me like the first half-life and moved me like the second half-life. and it's often like 4 usd. the bad is that it's a short campaign but the good is the campaign and its replayablitity. i hear they fixed multiplayer but i can't play with those gods.
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 1y
Effect and Cause is one of the best levels in any videogame, period.
Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee · 13 pts · 1y
horse_tranquilizers@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1y
As for the last, OpenRA is good too if you played RA(2)
drasglaf@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y
The sequel has Sara Kestelman as Kreia, that alone makes it worth playing IMHO.
Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y
Maybe I was a little jilted coming into Kotor 2 directly after Kotor 1 - I really enjoyed the sequel, but you can feel the cut content in some areas, whereas the first game feels âcompleteâ.
I might owe it another play through, it has been a while
drasglaf@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y
It's a shame they forced them to release it unfinished. If you decide to play it, install the Restored Content Mod from the Steam Workshop. It restores a lot of cut content, making the game a bit more complete.
truxnell@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 1y
Very much free space 2 here. 99 was a fine year for games.
Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y
And they abandoned the IP to focus on Saints Row đ„
FS2 was the first game that really âcaughtâ my attention. Other game were fun sure and had bigger budgets or larger market appeal, but FS maintained that narrative tone of a existential struggle to survive in a cold and uncaring universe, humanity ignorantly plodding the galaxy and awakening xenophobic forces beyond our comprehension.
FS1 is also excellent, but itâs a rare event when the sequel is hands down the better game in almost all aspects, while respecting the source material and keeping the story moving while being faithful to that original tone
inlandempire@jlai.lu · 2 pts · 1y
Excellent listw thank you for the links!!
Quazatron@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1y
Good luck. I've played them countless times and they are installed permanently on my drive. đ
inlandempire@jlai.lu · 4 pts · 1y
Hahaha well I have all of HL2's achievements to complete
rustydrd@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 1y
Maybe the Metro or BioShock series? They play quite a bit differently, but they scratch the same itch for me, and I see them on sale quite a bit (especially Metro).
inlandempire@jlai.lu · 6 pts · 1y
Oh yeah I forgot to mention them, I absolutely love the metro series, I actually read metro 2033 before discovering there was a game about it haha, never played the Redux versions though, thanks for the idea !!
FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org · 2 pts · 1y
The redux version of the first game actually looks worse in my opinion. The textures may be better in spots but the art design suffers because of it. Unfortunately you cannot buy the original anymore. I don't remember exactly but I think (fact check me here) that the redux version of last light was much similar and not as large of a change.
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 1y
Alyx was really fun. The first time a soldier reacted to my reaching out and touching them with my controller scared the bejeezus out of me!
silverchase@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1y
The audio in the game is bonkers. Distant footsteps or floor creaking can really get you.
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1y
It's the only really compelling VR application I have yet tried.
silverchase@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1y
I'll suggest Vertigo 2 as a worthy followup.
It really impressed me with its detail and scope as a mainly solo effort, by a developer who worked at Valve for a while. It's a big, cinematic shooting adventure, like Half-Life, so the game calls itself a half-like! There are cool bosses, memorable characters, and wildly varied environments. The story is pretty much a flipped Half-Life: you're the alien who got teleported in after a big science disaster and you're fighting your way back home. Compared to Alyx, which takes places around a handful of city blocks, Vertigo 2 throws you around a much larger-scale setting, so it's more like the Half-Life 2 kind of linear gallery of wild shit.
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y
That DOES look good! I really appreciate you telling me about it.
silverchase@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 1y
More action and environmental storytelling:
More "genre pushers":
Macallan@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
Puzzle Games:
The Talos Principal 1 & 2
Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 1y
100% yes on Talos principle, and I will openly simp for Antichamber. I have never had my brain so full of fuck as that game, simply sublime progression and variety of puzzlesđ
silverchase@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y
In the years since I finished Antichamber, my opinion of it has cooled somewhat with hindsight. The early game and some of the mid-game are full of dazzling, logic-defying spectacles, which is what draws you in, but the magic fades later on and you get a lot of puzzles with the block gun until the ending. The teaching style mostly works.
a_postmodern_hat@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
I went into Inscryption blind and had an absolute blast once I got the hang of it. What an awesome little game.
mister_newbie@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 1y
FYI, there's an No-VR mod for Alyx in case you want to play it, and lack of a headset is what's stopping you.
stoy@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 1y
I would suggest Bioshock 1 and 2.
Bioshock: Infinite is verry meh, and hops that it's meh gameplay will be overlooked due to it's story, but to me the story was just annoyingly confusing.
BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 1y
But the soundtrack is đ€
stoy@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 1y
I don't remember much about the Bioshock: Infinite soundtrack, apart from that it had a cool barbershop performance
BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 1y
Itâs mostly covers of pop songs from the last 50-60 years in a bunch of different styles. The stand outs for me are Fortunate Son, Girls Just Wanna Have Fun and Everybody Wants To Rule The World.
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 1y
Should have played Black Mesa instead of HL. It's everything HL is but better. It was incredible even having played HL back in 1998. I recommend people who've never played HL to just do BM.
As a lifelong Half-Life fan, I really liked some of Frictional Games' titles. I liked Penumbra a lot and I think Soma was an absolute masterpiece. It's at a level similar to Half-Life for me. If you don't know anything about it, don't read, don't watch. Install and play.
dev_null@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 1y
OP wrote he is playing both. I agree if you want to play the story once, Black Mesa is better, but if OP wants to play both, then nothing wrong with that.
SteveNashFan@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
If you found HL1 dated, there's a good remake in source: https://store.steampowered.com/app/362890/Black_Mesa/
Even as a purist (HL1 is my favorite FPS period), I love how Black Mesa handles the source material. It's on sale for $5 right now too. Besides Valve's other games, check out F.E.A.R (2005), Doom series and the Bungie Halo games.
FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org · 12 pts · 1y
OP says in his post that he's currently playing Black Mesa.
SteveNashFan@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
Oh, whoops. That's what I get for skimming :).
inlandempire@jlai.lu · 3 pts · 1y
No worries, I deliberately played HL1 first so that I could revisit it with Black Mesa, I felt like it was still important to experience the source material
Etterra@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Quarter-Life.
Zahille7@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
I've been getting into boomer shooters and some more "retro" styled games.
Selaco and Hedon: Bloodrite are imo more immersive sim than boomer shooters, but they can still fit that description as well.
domi@lemmy.secnd.me · 4 pts · 1y
It wasn't mentioned yet: Abiotic Factor is essentially Half-Life 1 but with coop.
If you have a friend or two interested in the same type of game I can only recommend it.
Donjuanme@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
Golden eye 007 for the N64 was pretty revolutionary. As was perfect dark and perfect dark 0, if you don't mind going back to half-life 1 times those are worth a playthrough.
SARGE@startrek.website · 4 pts · 1y
model_tar_gz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
I relatively recently tried to replay Goldeneye. It was shockingâcontroller and FPS mechanics have evolved so much since then it was honestly not fun to play. While it was breakthrough tech at the time it just did not age well.
So many hours of fun into that game though; Iâll never not hold a special place in my heart for it even if itâs unplayable nostalgia now.
FPS keyboard+mouse shooters of that era have aged much better. I can still play Marathon (+2 + Infinity) (Bungieâs precursors to Halo) and have an enjoyable gaming session.
Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 1y
PD was the first fps game I remember that had bots so that you could play by yourself.
nutcase2690@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 1y
The team for black mesa is working on Black Mesa Blue Shift, where you play out half life 1 through the eyes of Barney! I have been meaning to go through the latest chapter that was released. It is on the steam workshop for black mesa.
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org · 2 pts · 1y
Deus Ex and both System Shocks should be on everyone's lists. I don't really "like" any first-person games (going back to Akalabeth), and I enjoyed both of those games. If you like that style of game, you might also want to try out Thief: The Dark Project.
But I think what comes after HL, given everything, is just Portal. You said "replay" about them, so I guess you already have. So maybe, Narbacular Drop would be the next best thing - it's the game that the Portal devs made before it was Portal. Maybe you'd want to look at The Stanley Parable, too.
There's also Warhammer 40,000: Fire Warrior that's more FPS-y. I don't think you must know anything about 40K to play it, but I couldn't tell you, because I already was into it when I played. Also, the two Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force games, built on expanded versions of the Quake 3 engine.
MudMan@fedia.io · 2 pts · 1y
The new System Shock remake is very cool and quite underappreciated. The original is far more dated than HL1, IMO. System Shock 2 is playable, though. You could also give the Thief games a whirl, if you played Dishonored. I think along that trajectory you could also go revisit the Hitman games. Hitman 1 and Thief are two takes on the same idea that were happening more or less at the same time. I was more of a Hitman guy at the time, and I think that first game, clunky as it is to control, was mind-blowing.
Are you looking for FPSs specifically? Blizzard is threatening to delist Warcraft 1 and 2 from GOG, so it's a great time to revisit those. 2 holds up.
If you're only looking into FPSs, I'd revisit Quake 2. It's the missing link between HL1 and the arcadey Doom-style early FPSs, and if you have the hardware, the path-traced remake looks really nice.
A few hot takes here: 1) I know I'm in the minority, but I love HL1 and could never get through HL2. The vehicle levels suck, as do the more open areas. The more contained original with its interconnected "Aliens meets Die Hard" setup was so groundbreaking, HL2 is meandering and slow by comparison.
I know what you mean about the gravity gun, but also, the Portal devs weren't there for that, but also the puzzle design in Portal is more Valve-y than the stuff in the original Narbacular Drop. I don't know where that lands in reality.
I hate the name "immersive sim". What is being "simmed"? Why is it immerisve? Isn't Halo immersive? I was immersed AF. And it's simming at least as much stuff as Dishonored, I assure you. It's such a dumb name, just words mashed together. Ditto for "character action game". Unless your action game features exclusively rocks, it's "character action", that means nothing.
silverchase@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1y
Genre names also annoy me. But there's no authority to define a taxonomy of gameplay styles, so the vocabulary is built informally. I likewise dislike MOBA, metroidvania, roguelike, and soulslike. In the end, we just need the right sequences of letters to accurately represent the gameplay.
In the case of immersive sim, I believe it came from Warren Spector trying to portray how Deus Ex was different from pure action, RPG, and stealth games.
MudMan@fedia.io · 2 pts · 1y
Of those I only object to MOBA, which is another generic word salad thing. The rest at least tell you what games the game in question is like.
I never accepted "roguelite", though. It's good wordplay, but the pedantry underlying the term rubs me the wrong way.
I'm aware of the history, too, but the thing is, it doesn't even make sense anymore. The term originates at a time where a game does one thing, or maybe one thing per level. Every game now does the things "immersive sims" are supposed to do. Immersive sims are just ARPGs that happen to model themselves mechanicaly or thematically after Deus Ex or Thief. By the numbers Deus Ex has more in common with Mass Effect than Dishonored, by far.
inlandempire@jlai.lu · 1 pts · 1y
Roguelike/lite especially feels overused and saturated nowadays it's annoying
truxnell@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 1y
Deus ex and system shock 2 should definitely be on a retro shooter/rpg list. Shock 1, you'd probably be better off playing night dives shock remake from last year.. or perhaps a modified remaster of the OG. The controls from shock1 are outright painful
Ashtear@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y
For historical perspective developed in parallel with Half-Life 2, Medal of Honor: Allied Assault is worth a look. With Call of Duty being the revenue juggernaut it is now, I think we sometimes forget how it started. Allied Assault is a landmark game that's an ancestor in CoD's lineage.
On the other end of the timeline, the founders of the studio that developed the original Call of Duty went on to make Titanfall. Titanfall 2 has an excellent single-player campaign that holds up very well.
TORFdot0@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
I donât understand people who think Half-Life aged badly. On a Rail and Interloper arenât the greatest chapters in a video game but no game is perfect.
I do need to try Black Mesa and see how it improves on those chapters.
XenBad@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Half-Life and Half-Life 2 have plenty of really good mods if you are interested in those, Black Mesa started as just a mod as well.
Some of my favourites for HL2:
Some of my favourites for HL1:
There are many more that I haven't mentioned / played myself.