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9 Comments
Shareni@programming.dev · 13 pts · 1y
Discord, lol... At least use matrix if you're going down the road of suboptimal communication.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
It's baffling how many open source projects choose proprietary big tech systems for their projects, especially an inefficient comms tool like discord.
Shareni@programming.dev · 0 pts · 1y
Inb4 "But it's easier for people to join, everyone has discord"
If someone can't take 2 minutes to register to a forum/Lemmy/whatever they're not going to give any good contributions to your community... Those are the same lazy bastards that create a post instead of literally googling their title and getting the answers immediately.
MajorHavoc@programming.dev · 6 pts · 1y
Uh..."from scratch"? No thanks. I'm a big fan of GCC, and don't intend to learn to code without it.
zirias@snac.bsd.cafe · 5 pts · 1y
I always had the idea in mind to one day code something in #C for the #C64. There's #cc65 offering a decent compiler. I always ended up with using #assembler again. That's because on that platform, it is the only way to have "full control": The OS only offers a machine code ABI (jump to routines, pass stuff in registers) and misses lots of things, so you need to program the hardware directly. Of course, I still use an assembler instead of hacking the bytes of the machine code directly.
Any Unix and similar OS comes with a C compiler, and even other systems offer a C API, so for a "modern" environment, that's the natural language to use for that "full control". And remember, C is your "portable assembler". 😏
In a nutshell, if you take "from scratch" literally, it would mean to somehow hack bytes into the machine's memory. That doesn't make much sense. I understand it as "use a simple programming language and avoid these huge frameworks and similar doing deep magical stuff for you".
CC: @modev@snac.bsd.cafe
nebeker@programming.dev · 2 pts · 1y
Don’t mind me, I’m just picking the very best grains of sand to make my own silicon, like a real programmer (xkcd).
Womble@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
Imagine not creating your own universe and going through nucleosysnthesis to create your own silicon. People these days have no sense of craft...
nebeker@programming.dev · 2 pts · 1y
Sounds like you may be interested in a certain manifesto.
modev@snac.bsd.cafe · 2 pts · 1y
Signed.