I actually even liked the app. Bruh.
Edited as per rules:
This is a post about the newly-viral in the west Chinese social media app Rednote.
I actually liked the app and even said as much, however the app prompts a permission for "Making and managing phone calls" as you can see in my first comment (linked below), I felt it needed to raise this as a potential concern as it's suspicious.
Original comment is at: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35733739/16034665 And https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35733739/16035177 And https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35733739/16035273
Original post is above the linked comments.
The potentially offending text is spread across several comments, the ban does not cite any specific comment.
Modlog is at: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=7652836
Reason: Rule 1 on World News at Lemmy.ml, which goes as such:
No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia. Code of Conduct.
What's even funnier is I'm a bisexual trans woman from Russia, I'm about half of those things they are banning me for being prejudiced against, a fairly regular visitor and commented on .ml, hexbear vet (also banned unrelated to this lol), actually a pretty big fan of Mao (though he made some questionable decisions) and have had a book of his quotes by my bedside for god knows how many years by now, it's my support network when I need to feel heard in rage against various bastards like landlords.
I even liked the app and said it's probably not malware in my opinion as someone with genuine qualifications and a dayjob of making such calls. I was frankly not just being not bigoted, I was pretty charitable too for a multitude of reasons, one of which is to make the tankoids at ml more receptive to it.
However I guess unless I literally mindlessly see mandarin and go soyjak over it every time it's not simpling enough. Tankies isn't even it, it's literally weabooisn for china.
21 Comments
catloaf@lemm.ee · 44 pts · 1y
Questioning anything Chinese is bigotry on lemmy.ml.
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net · 24 pts · 1y
It seems likely you were banned for this comment, not your comments about Rednote:
Now I think posting demeaning things about tankies is not bigotry and it’s very silly to equate them, but Lemmy.ml is widely known for this, so this is why most people avoid the instance. I will reiterate that everyone who doesn’t belong to their cult should stop participating and join similar communities on other instances. Their excessive and dishonest moderation makes real discussions impossible there.
Bronzebeard@lemm.ee · 20 pts · 1y
ml is a joke
spujb@lemmy.cafe · 14 pts · 1y
Can you please edit your post to follow these rules in this community’s sidebar? Obviously it’s ml so i believe you but this community is better quality if the posts have all the relevant information for us to make informed judgements. (Further, some instances like mine defederate .ml so it’s several extra steps to find the ml modlogs.)
Thanks!
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 1y
Done! Hopefully it's satisfactory! I linked the modlog of my user on dbzer0, linked all my comments in the thread, and gave some more context.
thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 1y
Its obvius spyware and ML runs interference for China all the time
heavydust@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 1y
We're all banned from lemmy.ml, it's not surprising.
sunzu2@thebrainbin.org · 8 pts · 1y
Power_Dive@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y
lemmy.ml fully support to china, is it aware that its website was banned within china? lmao.
stevedice@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 1y
The Make an manage phone calls permission is needed to read the IMEI so that's probably why they want it. Yeah, permissions in Android are stupid.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 1y
I mean, that's terrifying that any corpo would need an IMEI, that's concerning in its own right. That's not stupid at all, I'm glad it's that way, though it could be more fine-grained ofc.
lemonmelon@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
If an app has IMEI access, it could indeed make/manage calls, among other things. I would probably like it more if it were phrased along the lines of "permission to read IMEI", but that would mean noting to most users. Instead, the description of the permission is for the most impactful thing that a common user would understand (assuming they're paying attention to what permissions an app requests at all).
stevedice@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1y
Yep, but it shouldn't, there's no reason to. That's what I mean by stupid.
angcohen@discuss.online · 1 pts · 1y
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
Legitimately don't know why people don't instance block them.
cm0002@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Because it doesn't solve the problem, we should be pushing .world and other large instances to defed from them.
.world already defed'd from 2 of the 3 of the Tankie Triad and they need to finish the job lol
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
They won't.
.ml created Lemmy, and apparently their admins still do a lot of the work.
A defed just won't happen, but if you instance block them you don't even get notifications when one of their users replies.
Just let them have their random corner, people that stumble on will learn the lesson on their own.
Like, feel free to try, but there's better fights these days with better chances if working.
BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Is that what happens? I've had people reply to me before with some hefty comments most would respond to and only noticed it because some other person commented. I don't block the instance though.
hark@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1y
What problem are you trying to solve?
recreationalcatheter@lemm.ee · 4 pts · 1y
angcohen@discuss.online · 1 pts · 1y
Donut@leminal.space · -1 pts · 1y
Legitimate apps do use the same permission due to Google's screwed up way of handling permissions.
Basically, apps need to access to
READ_PHONE_STATEin order to know whether you're in the middle of a phone call or not, to be able to mute sounds or notifications when you are.This falls under the general phone permission tree, showing as wanting to make phone calls by itself. Yes, it's stupid, but you can thank Google for that one.
Not saying you got rightfully banned though.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 1y
Which no other apps do this way. Spotify is able to mute itself just fine without any permissions to "Make and Manage Phone Calls", and the OS handles muting notifications for when you're in a phone call.
Google is absolutely not to blame here at all.
This is freakishly insidious misinformation you're spreading there, bud, because you're on the surface correct, but yet willfully ignoring reality. Why?
Donut@leminal.space · 5 pts · 1y
It could be outdated information, so I'd be happy to learn and correct it based on the facts available.
Please don't assume malice immediately, it makes for a terrible conversation.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1y
I mean, just install Spotify or any of the other mainstream apps and let's see if they prompt for that permission or not? It's not as if this is impossible to find out. I do not want to assume malice, but I also struggle to understand how you could even genuinely believe the things you do?