Gr*eks are so predictable!

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PugJesus@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 1y (8 replies)

Explanation: The Hellenic states which the Roman Republic fought, and overcame, were centered around the Macedonian-style phalanx, in which troops with 15-20 foot pikes formed a near-impenetrable front line of presented spears. And it was nearly-impenetrable - as long as they didn't have to do anything like 'turn quickly' or 'move over rough terrain'.

The Roman maniple system of mobile units of ~120 men was not a surefire path to victory - there were certainly some battles when the Romans were defeated by the phalanx. But on the whole, battles are unpredictable, and generally the side which can adapt to changing conditions - or accurately predict their opponent's deployment - is better-placed to win than the side which is not.

ineffable@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 1y (2 replies)

And of course a Simpsons reference

db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 1y (4 replies)

To be fair there was also the small fact that they were overcome because of their own infighting. Truly Macedonia was a tragedy for Greece.

PugJesus@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y (3 replies)

tbf, when was Greece NOT infighting?

db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 1y (2 replies)

Teeeechnically, when they were city-states they were not "infighting". Plus they did manage to put aside their differences for the Persians.

PugJesus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Teeeechnically, when they were city-states they were not “infighting”.

Outfighting one's neighbors 💪

Plus they did manage to put aside their differences for the Persians.

Except for the bit where numerous Greek city-states sided with the Persians.

And later the Spartans sided with the Persians against the Athenians in the Peloponnesian War.

db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 1y

Except for the bit where numerous Greek city-states sided with the Persians.

The cowards self selected to come out of the resistance and weaken the Persians instead! 💪