Dirty to pull this out now. If it works, if there really is a smoking gun then this is masterful politicking. If it backfires it'll be another classic second term labor foot-gun.
The LNP under "90s Queensland police are too kind and understanding to aboriginal kids" kipfler can't be handed the reigns of government. Australia will take decades to recover if it ever does.
Yeah I've seen him called that and I enjoy copying it. To be fair to him, which is easy since there's so little to defend, he's not a Nazi. He is a racist fascist though, so we're wading into the phylogeny of idiot ideologies for evil morons to mark out the differences.
I'll be voting all minor parties across the board with the major parties right at the bottom.
If the major parties want people to vote for them, they should try listening to the people and fixing the housing crisis and cost-of-living crisis.
Remove negative gearing, remove capital gains tax concessions, implement net-zero immigration, outlaw AirBnB, make foreign investment into residential property illegal, introduce a vacancy tax, punish developers who conduct "land-banking" and invest in TAFE to train the people we need locally.
That's a wasted vote, and not an option in the federal elections. It's just as important to keep the extreme right-wing Liberal and National parties from power, as it is to preference the better minor parties (make sure to investigate as some minors and independents are extreme right-wing nutbags).
The ordering of how right wing they are matters. That's the whole point of preferential voting.
If you abstain from ranking all candidates, you are acting the same as US voters claiming that "both sides are the same" and then not voting, particularly if your preferred minor candidate(s) doesn't have a chance of winning in your electorate.
Exaclty. They have a dumbarse first past the post system where you either vote for a shit party or throw your vote away. So people throw their vote away if they are disillusioned with the shit two party system.
We have an S tier electoral system where you can rank your preferences and make politicians aware that people are voting for particular issues and still make sure your vote goes to the least bad major. We don't want the sort of ignorance they have in the US where nobody gives a shit then they act all surprised. Fuck that. As major parties go the ALP is ok. They won't be my first choice but I am not leaving a vote that impacts my family to a bunch of News Corp readers.
If you don't fill in all the boxes for the House of Representatives ballot paper, you've voted informally and wasted your vote.
If you let your vote exhaust for the Senate ballot paper, you signal that you don't have an opinion on who should get elected once your selected candidates have been eliminated, which basically amounts to throwing your vote away if your preferences haven't already contributed to electing someone.
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NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org · 15 pts · 1y
Dirty to pull this out now. If it works, if there really is a smoking gun then this is masterful politicking. If it backfires it'll be another classic second term labor foot-gun.
The LNP under "90s Queensland police are too kind and understanding to aboriginal kids" kipfler can't be handed the reigns of government. Australia will take decades to recover if it ever does.
DolphinLundgrin@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 1y
Adolf Kipfler! Is that a thing? I like that. 😁
NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org · 6 pts · 1y
Yeah I've seen him called that and I enjoy copying it. To be fair to him, which is easy since there's so little to defend, he's not a Nazi. He is a racist fascist though, so we're wading into the phylogeny of idiot ideologies for evil morons to mark out the differences.
dumblederp@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 1y
I like "Dick Tater"
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 1y
It's not that dirty, just how campaigns are run now.
mtpender@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 1y
I'll be voting all minor parties across the board with the major parties right at the bottom. If the major parties want people to vote for them, they should try listening to the people and fixing the housing crisis and cost-of-living crisis.
Remove negative gearing, remove capital gains tax concessions, implement net-zero immigration, outlaw AirBnB, make foreign investment into residential property illegal, introduce a vacancy tax, punish developers who conduct "land-banking" and invest in TAFE to train the people we need locally.
princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 1y
So you'll put Labor below One Nation?
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 1y
This is pretty radical economic policy.
Is there any research supporting all of this or just the vibe?
Labor ran on negative gearing reform and we got morisson.
Deceptichum@quokk.au · -4 pts · 1y
NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org · 19 pts · 1y
exhausting your vote might be bad depending on your seat.
Also be careful with some minors. There are a lot that are essentially just the LNP or worse.
vividspecter@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 1y
That's a wasted vote, and not an option in the federal elections. It's just as important to keep the extreme right-wing Liberal and National parties from power, as it is to preference the better minor parties (make sure to investigate as some minors and independents are extreme right-wing nutbags).
Deceptichum@quokk.au · 2 pts · 1y
eureka@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 1y
Yes, and abstaining only gives them a larger proportion of the votes.
Find the left wing candidates (the senate has some even if your local ballot doesn't) and preference them, if you want to help keep out Lib and Lab.
vividspecter@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y
The ordering of how right wing they are matters. That's the whole point of preferential voting.
If you abstain from ranking all candidates, you are acting the same as US voters claiming that "both sides are the same" and then not voting, particularly if your preferred minor candidate(s) doesn't have a chance of winning in your electorate.
Deceptichum@quokk.au · 0 pts · 1y
zero_gravitas@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1y
In some states, but not in federal elections (in House of Reps).
shirro@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 1y
That is a terrible idea. You just threw your vote away, That is how the really bad guys get in.
Deceptichum@quokk.au · 2 pts · 1y
shirro@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 1y
Exaclty. They have a dumbarse first past the post system where you either vote for a shit party or throw your vote away. So people throw their vote away if they are disillusioned with the shit two party system.
We have an S tier electoral system where you can rank your preferences and make politicians aware that people are voting for particular issues and still make sure your vote goes to the least bad major. We don't want the sort of ignorance they have in the US where nobody gives a shit then they act all surprised. Fuck that. As major parties go the ALP is ok. They won't be my first choice but I am not leaving a vote that impacts my family to a bunch of News Corp readers.
Deceptichum@quokk.au · 2 pts · 1y
Paradoxvoid@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 1y
If you don't fill in all the boxes for the House of Representatives ballot paper, you've voted informally and wasted your vote.
If you let your vote exhaust for the Senate ballot paper, you signal that you don't have an opinion on who should get elected once your selected candidates have been eliminated, which basically amounts to throwing your vote away if your preferences haven't already contributed to electing someone.