Be hard to bankrupt AMD when their CPUs make them tons of money.
And for the time being, AMD offers the best CPU-iGPU combination. Intel is still lagging behind on GPU tech and NVidia has no x86 CPU -- even though the most important patents expire in two years, I don't think NVidia will make an x86 CPU without the more modern extensions that are still patented.
In one hand I want the Nvidia quasi monopoly to end.
NVidia has no monopoly in the PC space. Intel + AMD combined far outnumber NVidia GPUs overall, NVidia just has certain niche markets where they dominate with high profit margins but that's not what this story is about.
If we are talking gaming (which by no means is a niche market), nvidia absolutely dominates the GPU market. The steam survey reports a market share of 75% for nvidia gpus
If we are talking gaming (which by no means is a niche market), nvidia absolutely dominates the GPU market. The steam survey reports a market share of 75% for nvidia gpus
Gaming also compromises Candy Crush and Wordle which are not on Steam. The article is about a low-cost GPU, not a 4080 competitor.
I would claim that most people that need a dedicated GPU for gaming are using steam
True but you said "If we are talking gaming (which by no means is a niche market), nvidia absolutely dominates the GPU market". So gaming in general which includes the massive number of casuals playing simple web games and that's what I was replying to. Gaming with dedicated GPU is a niche market compared to the sheer size of the overall PC market which has an installed base of literally billions of devices in use. So again: NVidia has no monopoly.
For me and my workflow they deliver better drivers on Linux than nvidia and that's all I care about. If they can be less expensive than an AMD gpu as well then I'll probably get one
Pretty well I reckon. Intel is very proactive in upstreaming their graphics drivers. Just make sure you're on a recent kernel with up to date Mesa libraries. Their OpenGL drivers aren't very fast for gaming, but Zink on Vulkan apparently runs well according to Phoronix
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twistedtxb@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 3y
In one hand I want the Nvidia quasi monopoly to end. On the other hand it might bankrupt AMD on its way.
dlove67@feddit.nl · 11 pts · 3y
Be hard to bankrupt AMD when their CPUs make them tons of money.
woelkchen@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 3y
And for the time being, AMD offers the best CPU-iGPU combination. Intel is still lagging behind on GPU tech and NVidia has no x86 CPU -- even though the most important patents expire in two years, I don't think NVidia will make an x86 CPU without the more modern extensions that are still patented.
woelkchen@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
NVidia has no monopoly in the PC space. Intel + AMD combined far outnumber NVidia GPUs overall, NVidia just has certain niche markets where they dominate with high profit margins but that's not what this story is about.
nodiet@feddit.de · 12 pts · 3y
If we are talking gaming (which by no means is a niche market), nvidia absolutely dominates the GPU market. The steam survey reports a market share of 75% for nvidia gpus
dack@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 3y
They also dominate compute. There's still a lot of software that depends on CUDA.
nodiet@feddit.de · 0 pts · 3y
Oh yeah absolutely. Doing GPU parallel computing for many people is synonymous with using CUDA.
woelkchen@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 3y
Yes, "certain niche markets where they dominate with high profit margins".
brsrklf@compuverse.uk · 0 pts · 3y
Consoles have had AMD chipsets for decades, and still do. Well, except the Switch.
nodiet@feddit.de · 4 pts · 3y
We are talking about the PC space here, though.
woelkchen@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 3y
Gaming also compromises Candy Crush and Wordle which are not on Steam. The article is about a low-cost GPU, not a 4080 competitor.
nodiet@feddit.de · 2 pts · 3y
I would claim that most people that need a dedicated GPU for gaming are using steam
woelkchen@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 3y
True but you said "If we are talking gaming (which by no means is a niche market), nvidia absolutely dominates the GPU market". So gaming in general which includes the massive number of casuals playing simple web games and that's what I was replying to. Gaming with dedicated GPU is a niche market compared to the sheer size of the overall PC market which has an installed base of literally billions of devices in use. So again: NVidia has no monopoly.
MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 3y
Intel GPU press releases are historically horse shit. No matter what the claim, they always underdeliver.
Secret300@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 3y
For me and my workflow they deliver better drivers on Linux than nvidia and that's all I care about. If they can be less expensive than an AMD gpu as well then I'll probably get one
masterairmagic@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 3y
Their Linux drivers are pretty good.
Darklotus@programming.dev · 9 pts · 3y
We need more competition in the mid to low market, under $150 and your only option is the 1030 that's worse than a 6 yo mid range card like the rx570.
Daefsdeda@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 3y
Honestly, at the price point you're better off 2nd hand
heavy@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 3y
I think competition is healthy, so I'm all for it. I hope that Intel throws their hat into the affordable local AI ring.
Coreidan@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 3y
“Affordable” ROFL sure thing pal
Osirus@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 3y
I ll believe that when me shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert...
Rayspekt@kbin.social · 2 pts · 3y
How good do Intel GPUs work with (Arch) Linux?
twoolie@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 3y
Pretty well I reckon. Intel is very proactive in upstreaming their graphics drivers. Just make sure you're on a recent kernel with up to date Mesa libraries. Their OpenGL drivers aren't very fast for gaming, but Zink on Vulkan apparently runs well according to Phoronix
masterairmagic@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 3y
I welcome more competition in the GPU space. Intel is also doing a good job contributing to Mesa.