🇷🇺 [RUS] 18-year-old anarchist **Lyubov Lizunova** transferred to a prison colony in Tomsk

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cybermass@lemmy.ca · -47 pts · 1y (14 replies)

Anarchists are literally just end product capitalists.

If we had a democratic socialist society across the world, people would actually want society to continue existing.

But no, can't have that.

hypna@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 1y (4 replies)

Sometimes I think the last great problem to solve in anarchist theory is how people get this confused about what anarchism is.

Revan343@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 1y (2 replies)

Media deliberately conflating 'anarchy' with 'chaos'

hypna@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y

Maybe that's all it is.

metaStatic@kbin.earth · 2 pts · 1y

if you had never experienced direct democracy how else would you describe it?

AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 1y

TBF, if you put 4 different anarchists in a room to debate a topic, you'd end up with 7 different opinions; I think that the way that anarchism functions means that we end up with an especially diverse mixture of perspectives and viewpoints, so I don't think people will ever agree on what anarchism actually is (which I find delightful, in many respects)

This is perhaps a facetious reply to your comment though, given that I realise that the confusion you speak of is very different to the discourse I'm talking about. I agree with your point and I think it's a very funny joke.

A strategy that I sometimes use to avoid the misconceptions is to just avoid saying the big scary A-word, because I've had some bizarre conversations where people are super receptive towards anarchist ideas, but it's like something shuts off in their brain when someone says "anarchist". I don't know whether this strategy feels inappropriately deceptive ¯_ (ツ)_/¯ (I picked my current username as an experiment in "wearing my ideology on my sleeve", to see how the contrast to the above strategy felt. )

kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 25 pts · 1y

"anarchic" = "an" (no) + "archic" (ruler)

Anarchists want to remove hirearchy and rulers, not society as a whole. There are a number of examples throughout history of successful anarchistic societies.

BlackRoseAmongThorns@slrpnk.net · 17 pts · 1y (4 replies)

Ah yes, anarchists being capitalists, doing capitalist things like trying to build communalistic spaces, and not believing in money, or spreading union agitprop... Truly friends of the capitalist class.

samus12345@lemm.ee · 15 pts · 1y (3 replies)

I took it as meaning capitalism creates anarchists because it's so awful.

Agosagror@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 1y (2 replies)

If thats true then that might actually be the most poorly worded take I've seen on Lemmy to date.

samus12345@lemm.ee · 8 pts · 1y (1 reply)

True. No other interpretation makes sense to me, though.

BlackRoseAmongThorns@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 1y

I have to agree with the other person, it's an awful choice of words, as an anarchist myself

Aphelion@lemm.ee · 15 pts · 1y
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ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 1y

As an anticapitalist anarchist:

You need to learn what Anarchy is.

C126@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 1y

Funnily enough anarchy is the inevitable conclusion of both extremes of economic systems: capitalism and communism. I always wondered if ultra capitalist folks and ultra communist folks would realize they both are envisioning essentially the same end game.