I'd be wary of getting a conversation node from anybody other than the original author (as described in the second approach).
There's a reason why, if you want to resolve a missing post in Lemmy, etc, you have to use the fedi-link to retrieve it from its source, not just from any other instance that has a copy (because, like the "context owner", they could be lying).
For Group-based apps, conversation backfill is mostly an issue for new instances, who might have a community's posts (from its outbox), but will be missing old comments. Comments can be automatically and recursively retrieved when they are replied to or upvoted by a remote actor, but fetching from the source (as you arguably should do) is complicated by instances closing (there's still loads of comments from feddit.de and kbin.social out there - it will be much worse when lemm.ee disappears). So perhaps Lemmy could also benefit from post authors being considered the trusted owner of any comments they receive.
Somehow I haven't encountered piefed yet. Does it have an option to group the communities one follows? So I could see not only posts in communities I subscribed to, but also only from the ones I've put in, for example, "news" group?
I have heard the reasons why, but I still can't wrap my head around Mastodon's decisions regarding the ability of reactions to carry between instances & profile search. The solution to a problem should never be "scroll for 7 minutes". All of the instances still doing that should move on, because the whole "dopamine loop" neuroscience meme is nothing confirmed or worth breaking core site features over.
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freamon@preferred.social · 5 pts · 1y
I'd be wary of getting a conversation node from anybody other than the original author (as described in the second approach).
There's a reason why, if you want to resolve a missing post in Lemmy, etc, you have to use the fedi-link to retrieve it from its source, not just from any other instance that has a copy (because, like the "context owner", they could be lying).
For Group-based apps, conversation backfill is mostly an issue for new instances, who might have a community's posts (from its outbox), but will be missing old comments. Comments can be automatically and recursively retrieved when they are replied to or upvoted by a remote actor, but fetching from the source (as you arguably should do) is complicated by instances closing (there's still loads of comments from
feddit.deandkbin.socialout there - it will be much worse whenlemm.eedisappears). So perhaps Lemmy could also benefit from post authors being considered the trusted owner of any comments they receive.INeedMana@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
I think that the problem is not with propagation, but that we don't get notifications about other comments under a post we commented on.
What's more, if this comment gets an answer, and then someone will comment that answer, I will not be informed of that branch of discussion
Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1y
Have you tried the "New comments" sort?
INeedMana@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
I mean the notification about new, unread message. Sort won't solve that, I observe too many communities
Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 1y
Piefed has more granular notifications. Voyager is also recently supported
!piefed_meta@piefed.social
INeedMana@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
I'll check Voyager out, thanks. But still, I suspect most of Lemmy uses the default UI
Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 1y
The Piefed web UI is similar to Lemmy. As usual, people have options
INeedMana@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Somehow I haven't encountered piefed yet. Does it have an option to group the communities one follows? So I could see not only posts in communities I subscribed to, but also only from the ones I've put in, for example, "news" group?
Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 1y
Exactly, it has feeds (so what your describe), that can be private or public
tastemyglaive@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 1y
I have heard the reasons why, but I still can't wrap my head around Mastodon's decisions regarding the ability of reactions to carry between instances & profile search. The solution to a problem should never be "scroll for 7 minutes". All of the instances still doing that should move on, because the whole "dopamine loop" neuroscience meme is nothing confirmed or worth breaking core site features over.