I see a lot of discussion in online spaces about what is and isn’t considered goth music (especially on certain subreddits). For example, I see people say that anything outside of goth rock isn’t “goth music.” Are dark wave , cold wave, etc “not goth?” Is it because they stem from post-punk? I guess I am just confused where the line is drawn because the bands playing at many of the goth venues I have been to have synths and drum machines.
Sincerely,
A confused baby bat
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JayleneSlide@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 325d
I love when people draw their own little sandy opinions around nebulous, subjective topics, and then proceed to act like they're speaking ex cathedra on the topic.
Here's a general life tip: learn to identify opinions from fact. When people express opinions (value judgements), politely, amicably, and sincerely ask them to share the facts on which they developed that opinion. Be fair and hold yourself to the same standards. And hoo-whee, people sure do express a lot of ignorant opinions.
Now onto the topic of "not goth." The drummer for Sisters of Mercy, one of the quintessential goth bands, is Doktor Avalanche, which is a drum machine.
Another funny bit in goth culture, but not exclusive to that subculture, is the "I am more goth than thee." It was such a tired trope that my goth friends and I would joke "I'm so goth, I'm dead."
Anecdotally, I have been an audio engineer for some goth bands, Black Atmosphere probably being the only one of which you may have ever heard. The amount of signal processing and audio post-processing used by every goth band is some Ship of Theseus shit. They use so much processing, they blur the boundaries of synthesis as an instrument. No exaggeration: Black Atmosphere used every processor in my rack, and I had racks of racks.