c/anarchism · by BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz · 352d

An Anarchist FAQ Reading Group - Sections B.0-B.1 - Week #5

Hey y'all! We made it! We've finished Section A!

Here we are reading and discussing Sections B.0 (intro) and B.1 of AFAQ this week, which are about why anarchists oppose authority and hierarchy (section B is about why they oppose the current system)!

Happy reading! TODO

Section B.0 (Intro): https://anarchistfaq.org/afaq/sectionB.html#secb0
Section B.1: https://anarchistfaq.org/afaq/sectionB.html#secb1

There is also an EPUB version of AFAQ, courtesy of @irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com: here

If you'd like to join, please comment and we'll ping you next post.

Link to last week's read: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52709377

PS. Feedback request: How did you find last week's reading pace? Fast/Slow/OK/etc.?

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BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz · 7 pts · 352d (2 replies)

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db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 352d (1 reply)

You can remove me. Sorry but I don't have the time unfortunately.

BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 352d

Aw oke cool:)

BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz · 6 pts · 342d (2 replies)

Umm, while reading B.1.5, I see that it mentions a study on Freud's (as it says;) "most solidly grounded discoveries". How solidlu are these grounded? (I'm not trusting Freud very much.)

::: spoiler Snippet

In short, authoritarian civilisation reproduces itself with each generation because, through an intricate system of conditioning that permeates every aspect of society, it creates masses of people who support the status quo.

Wilhelm Reich has given one of the most thorough analyses of the psychological processes involved in the reproduction of authoritarian civilisation. Reich based his analysis on four of Freud's most solidly grounded discoveries, namely, (1) that there exists an unconscious part of the mind which has a powerful though irrational influence on behaviour; (2) that even the small child develops a lively "genital" sexuality, i.e. a desire for sexual pleasure which has nothing to do with procreation; (3) that childhood sexuality along with the Oedipal conflicts that arise in parent-child relations under monogamy and patriarchy are usually repressed through fear of punishment or disapproval for sexual acts and thoughts; (4) that this blocking of the child's natural sexual activity and extinguishing it from memory does not weaken its force in the unconscious, but actually intensifies it and enables it to manifest itself in various pathological disturbances and anti-social drives; and (5) that, far from being of divine origin, human moral codes are derived from the educational measures used by the parents and parental surrogates in earliest childhood, the most effective of these being the ones opposed to childhood sexuality. :::

xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 341d (1 reply)

Right, I think you are right in not trusting too much of Freud, psychology (and especially in it's early days) ia built upon a whole lot of assumptions that somebody kinda pulled out of their ass imo. (They can still be true, but it's often not really verifiable).

The big contribution of Freud was to corelate conscious actions and thoughts with unconscious, which was a big thing probably.

Personally point 1,2 and 5 seem true to me because it seems logical and is in line with my personal experiences. 3,4 can be true but it is also a "who the fuck knows ¯_(ツ)_/¯ "

I get the point they're trying to reinforce but i don't know if using Freud as a strong example is a good idea, even if his work can help with the questioning of one's ideas and actions.

Anyway, I'm not well versed on psychology or Freud. So take it with a grain of salt.

BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 341d

Yeah I think Im exactly on the same page with you on that, haha, well said:)

BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 349d

... As Colin Ward argues, people "do go from womb to tomb without realising their human potential, ...

Lol, what a wild expression "from womb to tomb"

Aatube@kbin.melroy.org · 1 pts · 338d (1 reply)

add me pls

also, the anarchist library has a TeX-chic (which I consider good-looking) version in PDF, EPUB, MOBI, etc. Just find your preferred download link at https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/the-anarchist-faq-editorial-collective-an-anarchist-faq-full (if you have extensions that transform page text this WILL lag)

BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 338d

Yoo, jusr in time, the bext ping will be in a few hours:)

About the anarchist library, this file is from 2020, there have been changes to the afaq since then, so I dont use it😄

Personally, I download the pdf files from here https://anarchistfaq.org/afaq/pdf/index.html for each section I read

BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 341d

Lol, just finished reading it, I might be sliiightly behind..