3 to 5 min is the sweet spot imo. It won't overstay its welcome. 5 to 10, gonna depend on who did it and it's actually quite difficult to go that long and still be good i'd imagine. Beyond 10 is either a masterpiece or masochist.
Back then electronic music(progressive, house, trance etc.), used to be 8 to 12 minutes songs.
3-5 minutes is good for normal everyday songs(pop, rock etc).
We also had to mix on vinyl by ear and try to match native tempos enough that you didn’t have to pitch more than +/-8, so tracks had long, formulaic lead-ins and outros to make that process smooth.
These days if you want to make a track longer you can just key in a loop, the pitch is corrected at any tempo (and can be adjusted to be in key), the gear measures tempo in real-time and can start tracks synced up to the correct beat measure (some small adjustments may be required) and you can jump to any part of a track, still beat-aligned, with the press of a button. You also get SMPTE, DMX, and video output if you want to control other aspects of the stage. And your record crate is a thumb drive you can stick in your pocket.
It’s not easier, it’s just different, and there are fewer restrictions.
I was making a joke based on the age of the guy in the image macro. I figured Edison cylinders would be too esoteric, and besides, two minutes is way too short.
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psx_crab@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 332d
3 to 5 min is the sweet spot imo. It won't overstay its welcome. 5 to 10, gonna depend on who did it and it's actually quite difficult to go that long and still be good i'd imagine. Beyond 10 is either a masterpiece or masochist.
roserose56@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 332d
Back then electronic music(progressive, house, trance etc.), used to be 8 to 12 minutes songs. 3-5 minutes is good for normal everyday songs(pop, rock etc).
4am@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 332d
We also had to mix on vinyl by ear and try to match native tempos enough that you didn’t have to pitch more than +/-8, so tracks had long, formulaic lead-ins and outros to make that process smooth.
These days if you want to make a track longer you can just key in a loop, the pitch is corrected at any tempo (and can be adjusted to be in key), the gear measures tempo in real-time and can start tracks synced up to the correct beat measure (some small adjustments may be required) and you can jump to any part of a track, still beat-aligned, with the press of a button. You also get SMPTE, DMX, and video output if you want to control other aspects of the stage. And your record crate is a thumb drive you can stick in your pocket.
It’s not easier, it’s just different, and there are fewer restrictions.
RaoulDuke85@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 332d
sefra1@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 332d
If music is boring then it's the DJ's job to make it interesting
datavoid@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 332d
Doesn't matter how long the song is when you've got drugs and bass
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 3 pts · 332d
I too love my DnB.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 332d
Bullshit, a 10" 78 is like three minutes tops
4am@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 332d
Most DJ singles were wide-grooved 12” at 45rpm; 33 1/3 for EPs with two tracks on a side.
Even the 10” releases were 45s.
There is no correlation between record size and speed, and literally no one pressed 78s for DJs because Technics 1200s don’t have a 78RPM speed
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 332d
I was making a joke based on the age of the guy in the image macro. I figured Edison cylinders would be too esoteric, and besides, two minutes is way too short.
BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 332d
I think I could probably read your DJ knowledge posts indefinitely, loving this.
roserose56@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 331d
I second this!(I have a collection)
brokenlcd@feddit.it · 4 pts · 332d
Wasn't that + radio schedules the reason why songs are still for the most parts ≈3min long?
And if we want to talk about longer songs... Alan Fitzpatrick - We Do What We Want ? As a more popular example.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 332d
Never heard of 'em. I usually think of In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida or O Superman.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 331d
Fake. An old fogey like me would never refer to banging choons as “songs”.
roserose56@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 331d
Only unknown underground sounds with bad quality.
Fredselfish@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 332d
Just learned a friend of mine is a DJ, supposed go check it out next month. Hopefully he doesn't suck.
edgemaster72@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 332d
Everyone knows the ideal song length is 4'33"