His chinese name is unknown, but Činšas possibly being linked to Chin is something I've seen people throw around. The -as ending is something added to most male names in lithuanian, and removing it makes it all that closer to Chin
Based on how my name is Lithuanian-sized, the same rules should make "Chin" -> "činšas".
I don't really understand the rules, but I very strongly suspect thier original name was Chin
Edit: im hearing "činas" is what Lithuanians would do now for "Chin". A Lithuanian language source says his father's surname on some document was listed as "Činsilas", but I don't know if the Lithuanian source material had already Lithuanian-ized it.
Oh wow look at me proudly telling a speaker about the sounds letters make, derp.
My wife is Lithuanian and so im trying to learn the language alongside my toddler... so I've got about a toddler level of comprehension/understanding.
I think picking a name is an undertaking for any couple, but with the added requirement that it feel "native" to both English and Lithuanian that narrower things down.
And good luck with the language! It's not an easy undertaking by any means hahah :3
And yeah, names can be tough. I saw people trying to pick names that sound good in 3-4 languages too, like lithuanian, german, english, and some others for flavour, and just reading the suggestions already felt overwhelming
In Lithuanian, men's names (including surname) end with a "s" sound. Women's names don't, so their surnames end with one sound if they got the surname through marriage vs through birth.
It's a crazy language because regardless of gender, you actually fuck with the person's name based on context. When you ask someone for something, you fuck with it one way. I think there are like 4 or 5 contexts where you vary the name ending.
Anyways as a result, it's very common even now to adopt a lithuanianized name (especially as a man) if you are spending time there and speaking Lithuanian... because of how much contextual information gets encoded in the name, native speakers really struggle with names incompatible with the grammatical features of the language.
Can confirm, if you come here, your name will get an ending added to it haha :3 (and maybe a phonetic spelling spelling, but that varies a lot more these days than in the past) I do it all the time to friends/family and whoever else, and you'd also hear the names lithuanianized on the news and other media
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flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 334d
Interesting to see how they lithuanized his name. Petras is (probably) a Lithuanian name he adopted, but Činšas clearly originates in the Chinese Chin
TabbsTheBat@pawb.social · 6 pts · 334d
Yes, Petras is the lithuanian form of Peter :3
His chinese name is unknown, but Činšas possibly being linked to Chin is something I've seen people throw around. The -as ending is something added to most male names in lithuanian, and removing it makes it all that closer to Chin
Windex007@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 334d
Č makes a "ch" sound in Lithuanian. Š is "sh".
Based on how my name is Lithuanian-sized, the same rules should make "Chin" -> "činšas".
I don't really understand the rules, but I very strongly suspect thier original name was Chin
Edit: im hearing "činas" is what Lithuanians would do now for "Chin". A Lithuanian language source says his father's surname on some document was listed as "Činsilas", but I don't know if the Lithuanian source material had already Lithuanian-ized it.
TabbsTheBat@pawb.social · 4 pts · 334d
Yeah we'd do it as Činas now, but I don't think it's that major of a stretch :3
I tried looking into Činsilas as well earlier, but I found 0 info on him beyond his name in the few articles about Činšas
Windex007@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 334d
Oh wow look at me proudly telling a speaker about the sounds letters make, derp.
My wife is Lithuanian and so im trying to learn the language alongside my toddler... so I've got about a toddler level of comprehension/understanding.
I think picking a name is an undertaking for any couple, but with the added requirement that it feel "native" to both English and Lithuanian that narrower things down.
By the way, the pink soup is great.
TabbsTheBat@pawb.social · 3 pts · 334d
My favourite dish :3.. and now I want to make it
And good luck with the language! It's not an easy undertaking by any means hahah :3
And yeah, names can be tough. I saw people trying to pick names that sound good in 3-4 languages too, like lithuanian, german, english, and some others for flavour, and just reading the suggestions already felt overwhelming
Windex007@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 334d
I was thinking the same thing.
In Lithuanian, men's names (including surname) end with a "s" sound. Women's names don't, so their surnames end with one sound if they got the surname through marriage vs through birth.
It's a crazy language because regardless of gender, you actually fuck with the person's name based on context. When you ask someone for something, you fuck with it one way. I think there are like 4 or 5 contexts where you vary the name ending.
Anyways as a result, it's very common even now to adopt a lithuanianized name (especially as a man) if you are spending time there and speaking Lithuanian... because of how much contextual information gets encoded in the name, native speakers really struggle with names incompatible with the grammatical features of the language.
TabbsTheBat@pawb.social · 1 pts · 334d
Can confirm, if you come here, your name will get an ending added to it haha :3 (and maybe a phonetic spelling spelling, but that varies a lot more these days than in the past) I do it all the time to friends/family and whoever else, and you'd also hear the names lithuanianized on the news and other media
PugJesus@piefed.social · 3 pts · 334d
Fascinating! I love seeing volunteers far from home in pre-Information Age armies! Hell of a thing when travel was still expensive and difficult!
TabbsTheBat@pawb.social · 4 pts · 334d
Unfortunately there's not too much information about him, but it does always make for interesting stories :3