Oh nice! I haven't had a chance to explore the new features yet. While I wouldn't want to change it for piefed.ca, it might be nice in the future if instances were able to customize which community it uses. For the users/instances that block LW/that community
Indeed. Down the line, hopefully we won't rely on a community but rather on raw data from instances themselves, the current setup is quite of a workaround
Wait, so the posts that are showing up on !newcommunities@lemmy.world are not really initiated by the user, but just the piefed server creating a post and impersonating the user that created the community?
@rimu@piefed.social, if I'm understanding this correctly, it's the second feature (the first one being the import of communities) where you have the server initiating actions but misrepresenting the true actor.
It's funny to see these contrasting approaches between PieFed and Lemmy development.
Rimu just treats this is a hobby and goes ahead yolo'ing a bunch of these features that abuse the underlying protocol and could bring serious systemic risks if other admins start deploying it, but because the current userbase is small then there is little scrutiny and they all think it's good to go.
The Lemmy devs are trying for years to get enough support to make a living of their work and therefore a lot more "professional" about what they do, so they would never introduce a feature that could cause Lemmy to be a "bad participant" in the network. But by not taking a more "customer-focused" approach to product development, it takes a long time to bring any functionality that makes it attractive.
PieFed is definitely taking a "Worse is Better" approach and I don't know what to make of it. It seems to be poised to make it most popular software among the current fediverse users, but at the same time it makes so idiosyncratic decisions that it makes it hard to believe it will be usable if more people started joining in.
that there is a point where less functionality ("worse") is a preferable option ("better") in terms of practicality and usability.
Seems accurate. This example is a good one: if you create a community and want it to succeed, you are going to promote it on !newcommunities@lemmy.world. Or maybe you aren't aware of !newcommunities, because you are a now mod, but then it's still useful to have that there.
I occasionally watch women's football, but the only active community around that topic is !fcb_women@feddit.org, which only covers the women's team of FC Bayern.
For men's football, I get my fix from !fc_sankt_pauli@feddit.org, because that's the only club that interests me.
Edit: I just noticed both of these are basically solely run by the same person. Thank you @Bathamster@feddit.org
You aren't! I'm the guy who runs the Orioles game day bot on lemmy.world. The threads get zero interaction, but it's free to run, so whatever.
All of the action is still over on reddit.
As far as I remember, MLB on Lemmy was one person posting articles, and I am way too casual in my MLB consumption to contribute anything to baseball communities.
I'm an MMA fan and it's a pretty dead scene on here. Which is kind of understandable. It's pretty difficult to support the sport lately. I've kind of stopped watching.
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Blaze@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 351d
!football@sopuli.xyz is okay, but we could definitely benefit from a few more posters/commenters
Just reposted it on !newcommunities@lemmy.world because why not
rglullis@communick.news · 3 pts · 351d
Does this mean you won't mind me posting the communities from the topic-specific instances, even if they are not exactly new?
otter@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 351d
While I can't speak for the mods there, I can confirm that it's cool to post old communities on !communitypromo@lemmy.ca :)
Blaze@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 351d
Just FYI, I now use mostly !newcommunities@lemmy.world as Piefed parses that community to fetch new communities: https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/4-developers/topic/Lemmyverse.20Community.20Discovery/near/4966
I would have preferred to use the lemmy.ca community for that, but the Piefed devs preferred to use the community with the most subs
otter@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 350d
Oh nice! I haven't had a chance to explore the new features yet. While I wouldn't want to change it for piefed.ca, it might be nice in the future if instances were able to customize which community it uses. For the users/instances that block LW/that community
Blaze@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 350d
Indeed. Down the line, hopefully we won't rely on a community but rather on raw data from instances themselves, the current setup is quite of a workaround
rglullis@communick.news · 1 pts · 350d
Wait, so the posts that are showing up on !newcommunities@lemmy.world are not really initiated by the user, but just the piefed server creating a post and impersonating the user that created the community?
@rimu@piefed.social, if I'm understanding this correctly, it's the second feature (the first one being the import of communities) where you have the server initiating actions but misrepresenting the true actor.
Blaze@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 349d
There is a checkbox in the communicaty creation menu that allows you to indeed create a post on !newcommunities at creation
rglullis@communick.news · 1 pts · 349d
It's funny to see these contrasting approaches between PieFed and Lemmy development.
Rimu just treats this is a hobby and goes ahead yolo'ing a bunch of these features that abuse the underlying protocol and could bring serious systemic risks if other admins start deploying it, but because the current userbase is small then there is little scrutiny and they all think it's good to go.
The Lemmy devs are trying for years to get enough support to make a living of their work and therefore a lot more "professional" about what they do, so they would never introduce a feature that could cause Lemmy to be a "bad participant" in the network. But by not taking a more "customer-focused" approach to product development, it takes a long time to bring any functionality that makes it attractive.
PieFed is definitely taking a "Worse is Better" approach and I don't know what to make of it. It seems to be poised to make it most popular software among the current fediverse users, but at the same time it makes so idiosyncratic decisions that it makes it hard to believe it will be usable if more people started joining in.
rimu@piefed.social · 2 pts · 349d
pay me.
Blaze@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 349d
Seems accurate. This example is a good one: if you create a community and want it to succeed, you are going to promote it on !newcommunities@lemmy.world. Or maybe you aren't aware of !newcommunities, because you are a now mod, but then it's still useful to have that there.
squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 351d
I occasionally watch women's football, but the only active community around that topic is !fcb_women@feddit.org, which only covers the women's team of FC Bayern.
For men's football, I get my fix from !fc_sankt_pauli@feddit.org, because that's the only club that interests me.
Edit: I just noticed both of these are basically solely run by the same person. Thank you @Bathamster@feddit.org
Bathamster@feddit.org · 2 pts · 351d
Aww, thanks. How nice of you 😘 Well, I hope one day I won‘t be the only one posting on my communities
Blaze@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 351d
Feel free to join !fedigrow@lemmy.zip to discuss community building
rglullis@communick.news · 2 pts · 351d
There is !bundesliga@soccer.forum, which has been neglected but I could certainly help if I see anyone taking initiative with the posting.
Blaze@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 351d
We could try to have more women's football on !football@sopuli.xyz, but that might be diluted in the men's football news
artiman@piefed.social · 2 pts · 351d
if football community was on piefed we could add men and women's football flairs
Blaze@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 351d
Most people are on Lemmy and wouldn't see them anyway, but yes, that could be an option
Klanky@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 351d
I think I am the only Baltimore Orioles (MLB) fan on Lemmy. :-)
AMillionMonkeys@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 349d
You aren't! I'm the guy who runs the Orioles game day bot on lemmy.world. The threads get zero interaction, but it's free to run, so whatever.
All of the action is still over on reddit.
Klanky@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 349d
Haha I always upvote that whenever I see it. I did comment early on but as it got no interaction I just stopped. Maybe I should start up again.
Elevator7009sAlt@ani.social · 3 pts · 351d
As far as I remember, MLB on Lemmy was one person posting articles, and I am way too casual in my MLB consumption to contribute anything to baseball communities.
sk1nnym1ke@piefed.social · 3 pts · 351d
Blaze@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 351d
Indeed, I see it from time to time, it's quite good
obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 351d
I'm an MMA fan and it's a pretty dead scene on here. Which is kind of understandable. It's pretty difficult to support the sport lately. I've kind of stopped watching.
sga@piefed.social · 2 pts · 350d