I've been self hosting a matrix istance for a while, but I'm honestly really really tired of bugs on clients and authentication not working, I know matrix is very feature rich and is awesome that is federated, but I'd prefer to use something which loads my server less and which is more simple despite lacking some features, what do you think?
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warmaster@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 327d
What features does XMPP not have?
https://xmpp.org/extensions/
https://providers.xmpp.net/
Unusable3151@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 326d
threads and spaces?
warmaster@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 326d
AFAIK:
Threads
https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0201.html
Spaces (pending approval)
https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/spaces.html
Unusable3151@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 325d
Thanks!
ijhoo@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 327d
Not OP, but what I do lack here is a decent server Implementation in a single binary and easy deployment.
Also decent native clients for various platforms. Do we have any good ones?
This probably isn't a xmpp specific, but I'd like to have it work like wireguard. If the keys are wrong, self hosted instance would just reject it on the packet level. Then only authorized clients could use it. Outgoing connection on some hub instance would give access to outside world. All this would help with self hosting.
kurcatovium@piefed.social · 2 pts · 325d
I remember reading about Snikket (hope I remember the name right) which should address exactly this.
warmaster@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 326d
https://docs.ejabberd.im/admin/install/
chicuongle@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 153d
What cool in Matrix concept is bridge. We do not need multiple applications for messages from multiple chanels like slack, discord, whatsapp, messenger, etc
sexy_peach@feddit.org · 6 pts · 327d
As long as you're not trying to have e2e encrypted group chats xmpp works flawlessly.
With that it can have some bugs in my experience.
meaz@scribe.disroot.org · 5 pts · 327d
I've never had issues with e2e encrypted group chats. And I've been using some for years
oriol@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 326d
It depends what mean group chat, if it consists 3-5-10 person, everything work flawless.
sexy_peach@feddit.org · 1 pts · 325d
Not in my experience. Interesting. Now that I think of it the problems happened a few years ago
just_another_person@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 327d
In order of fuss, config ease, and resource requirements, it's: IRC < XMPP < Matrix
Eirikr70@jlai.lu · 3 pts · 326d
I have self-hosted Matrix for a couple of years. I eventually settled with xmpp/ejabberd/conversations. It is easier to maintain and less resource intensive, especially if you want to go the federation route.
nitrolife@rekabu.ru · 2 pts · 327d
I just use linphone with flexisip. I don't understand why SIP dropped out of this chain.
And yes, there are encrypted 1-on-1 or group chats and you can send photos and documents. As a bonus, you can connect a SIP provider to access the telephony line.