Marineland asks Canadian government for emergency cash to feed whales — or euthanasia imminent
https://apnews.com/article/whales-marineland-canada-belugas-2ede29f44bd0dc949f3879a2520b6be8
https://apnews.com/article/whales-marineland-canada-belugas-2ede29f44bd0dc949f3879a2520b6be8
22 Comments
robocall@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 319d
It's sad to think that euthanizing them may be the most humane option. But sending them to a new place in China, where they would be in entertainment shows, and bred to continue the captivity of future generations has it's own ethical dilemma.
Drusas@fedia.io · 4 pts · 319d
Thirty? Why the fuck would the need thirty whales to begin with.
ceph@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 319d
Indeed. China's social environment is not conducive to good health and care for most animals.
PoliteDudeInTheMood@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 319d
Panda's being the exception there. My wife is Chinese and it's in their DNA that they have to love Panda's. We have so many stuffed animal Panda's and she has unique names for them all and I've been forced to create unique voices for every one of them. Her friend gave her a big panda stuffy and she named him snuggles and since we're not planning to have kids, and she doesn't like dogs or cats. I'm forced to provide voiceover for the panda named Snuggles.
whiwake@lemmy.cafe · 2 pts · 319d
They should make a gofundme or whatever
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 319d
I don't think whales can use the internet.
whiwake@lemmy.cafe · 4 pts · 319d
They’re afraid of the net.
venusaur@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 319d
Why not just release them to the wild and let them give it a shot? They trust humans too much and just get hunted? Throw off the ecosystem?
robocall@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 319d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keiko_(orca)
They tried this with the whale from Free Willy, and the whale failed to adapt to the wild before dying. They tried preparing him for years prior to his release and his trainer moved to Iceland where they released him to continue his transition into the wild.
x_pikl_x@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 319d
I'd rather die free than someone sticking me with a needle in my sleep and never having tasted said freedom.
village604@adultswim.fan · 3 pts · 319d
I'd rather die in my sleep than slowly starving to death in the wilderness.
robocall@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 318d
But we can't ask these animals what they would prefer. Not everyone would chose the same as you.
Even if we could communicate with them, it would be much more expensive to train them to be reintegrated into the wild (with a high chance of failure), rather than just feed them.
venusaur@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 319d
Damn. They’re pack animals tho. Maybe better chance in a group?
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 319d
Intigration into a pod is almost impossible tho. You can't force a pod to accept a new member.
Drusas@fedia.io · 2 pts · 319d
Your second sentence is correct, but your first sentence is incorrect. Particularly for males, leaving their birth pod and joining a new one is standard orca practice.
village604@adultswim.fan · 1 pts · 319d
There's 30 of them, though.
venusaur@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 319d
Aren’t they already a pod?
robocall@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 318d
I believe belugas have tendencies to move to different pods. They would interact with wild belugas, and how could they possibly understand the consequences/differences of interacting or following other belugas?
venusaur@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 318d
Is it crueler than euthanizing them? They don’t have a chance of survival?
robocall@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 318d
The odds of their survival in the wild are against them. Marineland can't afford to feed them, it would be more than 10x that cost to train them to have a chance of survival in the wild. Marineland can't afford to humanely release them into the wild.
Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 319d
Cant they just release them? Whats the worse that happens? They die?
robocall@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 319d
They would most definitely die. It may be more ethical and humane to simply euthanize them.
Whales in captivity are trained to eat dead fish, and can struggle to recognize living fish as food. They are trained to look for their human trainers for their meals and everything. They do not know how to hide and defend themselves. The wild is a foreign environment to them. While I understand the aspect of giving free meat to the wild, there is an argument that this is cruel, it's a disruption to the wild, and the captive whales are our responsibility.