Don't even get me started. I've always hated Apple for this kind of stuff, and now they're making Android even worse, piece by piece.
And given that society is dependent on phones, we're all fucked. I don't know if a Linux phone can do much given how it's mostly non capitalistic. I wish though. But adoption-wise I don't know if it could be a contender anyway. I'm not well-versed in it, but I'm just assuming the worst since the world is falling apart right now and my hope gland needs surgery. ðŸ˜
Gecko doesn't have a WebView implementation (GeckoView is not a WebView implementation), so it has to be used alongside the Chromium-based WebView rather than instead of Chromium, which means having the remote attack surface of two separate browser engines instead of only one.
This seems to be the main thrust. GrapheneOS has a hardened WebView, that using a Gecko browser bypasses and adds more attack surface because you still have the WebView.
Outside of Graphene this is less relevant (because of the lack of hardening) and outside of mobile only the isolation comments are relevant, which they note are being improved rapidly in desktop.
Arguments in favour of using Gecko browsers are typically about preventing a single corporation from monopolising web standards, and having continued access to proper ad blockers, things that are not part of Graphene's focus.
What does "best" mean here? Privacy is binary: either something is private, and only you decide who has access to it, or it isn't.
and unbiased ad-blocking
Uh-oh. That's a red flag. When a company makes a big deal out of being unbiased about something that isn't inherently biased to begin with, I just automatically assume right-wing.
by default.
And how easy is it to change that default if you don't like it? Or if YouTube kills ad blocking in it? No thanks, I'd prefer it be an extension, thanks.
Handy features like native !bangs
Custom search with extra characters. Firefox has had it for over a decade, and Chrome has had it for a while too.
and split view.
Pretty sure this has been in several browsers recently, too.
No adware,
Thanks, that's...kind of the bare minimum in a browser?
no bloat,
Degoogled is already that for Chromium, if that's really what you want. There are several Firefox forks that pull out a bunch of stuff and make it leaner, too.
no noise.
Bold move disabling the sound API. Respect. /s
People-first
Which people? Ok, this is easy to say, but essentially meaningless.
and fully open source.
Isn't BSD a sharealike license? So they can't not. Still, props to them.
At the end of the day, I think I'd still prefer a Gecko browser, or Degoogled if I absolutely had to use Chromium.
This is now the second post about this chrome browser in the last few weeks. Marketing team at Helium must really be scraping the bottom of the ideas barrel.
While people can hardern chromium themselves, some people don't want to spend time learning and configure it. So to make privacy more accessible and less tedious. Things like this and LibreWolf is born
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Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org · 53 pts · 320d
It's just another Chrome.
fuckgod@feddit.online · 34 pts · 320d
Fruit of a very poisonous tree. Never trust chromium. Not even once.
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org · 8 pts · 320d
Exactly. Especially considering what they're doing to Android.
fuckgod@feddit.online · 2 pts · 320d
Don't even get me started. I've always hated Apple for this kind of stuff, and now they're making Android even worse, piece by piece.
And given that society is dependent on phones, we're all fucked. I don't know if a Linux phone can do much given how it's mostly non capitalistic. I wish though. But adoption-wise I don't know if it could be a contender anyway. I'm not well-versed in it, but I'm just assuming the worst since the world is falling apart right now and my hope gland needs surgery. ðŸ˜
eleitl@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 319d
There is Vanadium though.
arox@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz · 1 pts · 320d
arox@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz · -4 pts · 320d
By GrapheneOS. Might they be wrong?
brisk@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 319d
This seems to be the main thrust. GrapheneOS has a hardened WebView, that using a Gecko browser bypasses and adds more attack surface because you still have the WebView.
Outside of Graphene this is less relevant (because of the lack of hardening) and outside of mobile only the isolation comments are relevant, which they note are being improved rapidly in desktop.
Arguments in favour of using Gecko browsers are typically about preventing a single corporation from monopolising web standards, and having continued access to proper ad blockers, things that are not part of Graphene's focus.
Blisterexe@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 320d
Seems okay, it is trustworthy but it's basically just a more private degoogled chromium with some extra features.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech · 20 pts · 320d
Which means we're still beholden to whatever they change in Chromium
warmaster@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 320d
So, a Chromium based Librewolf?
Sounds better than bare ungoogled chromium if you ever need such a thing.
ilinamorato@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 320d
I have concerns.
What does "best" mean here? Privacy is binary: either something is private, and only you decide who has access to it, or it isn't.
Uh-oh. That's a red flag. When a company makes a big deal out of being unbiased about something that isn't inherently biased to begin with, I just automatically assume right-wing.
And how easy is it to change that default if you don't like it? Or if YouTube kills ad blocking in it? No thanks, I'd prefer it be an extension, thanks.
Custom search with extra characters. Firefox has had it for over a decade, and Chrome has had it for a while too.
Pretty sure this has been in several browsers recently, too.
Thanks, that's...kind of the bare minimum in a browser?
Degoogled is already that for Chromium, if that's really what you want. There are several Firefox forks that pull out a bunch of stuff and make it leaner, too.
Bold move disabling the sound API. Respect. /s
Which people? Ok, this is easy to say, but essentially meaningless.
Isn't BSD a sharealike license? So they can't not. Still, props to them.
At the end of the day, I think I'd still prefer a Gecko browser, or Degoogled if I absolutely had to use Chromium.
sga@piefed.social · 2 pts · 318d
oeuf@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 319d
Part of me just wants to use GNOME Web and be done with it.
PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 320d
This is now the second post about this chrome browser in the last few weeks. Marketing team at Helium must really be scraping the bottom of the ideas barrel.
warmaster@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 319d
I've found it on AlternativeTo, new apps, filtered by open source filter.
sga@piefed.social · 1 pts · 318d
artyom@piefed.social · -1 pts · 320d
Y
Ascend910@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 320d
While people can hardern chromium themselves, some people don't want to spend time learning and configure it. So to make privacy more accessible and less tedious. Things like this and LibreWolf is born