“When you’re using these tactics, you are asking people to be hospitalized,” said Oscar Sanchez, a member of a rapid response network that tracks immigration enforcement activity. He said he saw an agent hit a teenage girl in the head with a tear gas canister. “You see elderly folks on the [ground], so you just ask yourself, what is this for? Why is the aggression needed? Why are these elevated tactics even being used?
This is disgusting. This isn't law enforcement, this is legalized abuse.
The point is that this title is bait. ICE has been pointing (and shooting) at peoples' faces all year with rubber bullets, tear gas, and other crowd control weapons. This title makes it sound as if they're waving live rounds around in this picture.
If that distinction doesn't matter to you, then you are free to happily go about your day without giving it a second thought.
Right, but ICE has been doing this for a while. It's bad, but it's not new. As far as I'm aware, ICE hasn't brandished or used live rounds in close quarters (as in this picture) yet.
I think the distinction is important because if ICE starts using live rounds on protesters, people are going to start retaliating with live rounds. Then we're in full-on mask-off civil war territory, no more pretending. Blurring that distinction is playing with fire, IMO.
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frunch@lemmy.world · 60 pts · 310d
This is disgusting. This isn't law enforcement, this is legalized abuse.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 309d
It's a police state doing everything it can to keep people from making the necessary changes to stop problems caused by wealth inequality.
VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 309d
I think the wealthy are so afraid of what's inevitably coming that they are trying to provoke it before people can organise a clear plan.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 309d
Yeah lol "you will own nothing and be happy"
They want to force a moneyless society where people are dependent on the rich for goods distribution.
Really, we could also just have a moneyless society where everyone is equal instead.
crumbguzzler5000@feddit.org · 28 pts · 310d
🎵Pushing little children, with their fully automatics, they like to push the weak around🎵 Deer Dance - System of a down
aichan@piefed.blahaj.zone · 22 pts · 310d
What is the "BTC" in the soldier to the right? Please tell me it's not bitcoin
Jesusaurus@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 309d
His vest has "BORTAC" under "POLICE", so could be an abbreviation of it or something else entirely.
Scuzzm0nkey@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 309d
It's Border Patrol's gravy seal team. Not sure if it's BORder patrol TACtical element or what but that's definitely who those dudes are.
Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 310d
Well that protester looks like he's casting fireball that poor ice agent had to respond lol
Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca · -2 pts · 309d
Ascrod@midwest.social · -39 pts · 310d
Please read the image description:
It's not a real gun with live ammunition as the post title subtly implies.
"Non-lethal" weapons to the face are still not good, but police and ICE have been doing this for a while. It's not new.
roofuskit@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 310d
Those weapons are not non-lethal, less lethal.
Ascrod@midwest.social · -35 pts · 309d
Same thing.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 309d
Lmao go get shot in the eye with a bean bag and get back to me about that
Oh wait no you won't
Ascrod@midwest.social · -15 pts · 309d
I meant that they are referred to by the same phrases, fucking christ.
athatet@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 309d
They shouldn’t be. Less than lethal is also a dog shit phrase when people do actually die from them.
Ascrod@midwest.social · 0 pts · 309d
💯 Agree
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 309d
non means non
less means less
and that concludes our intensive three week training
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 34 pts · 309d
The gun shoots stuff that can kill, especially at that range. Shut up.
Ascrod@midwest.social · -22 pts · 309d
I'm well aware of that.
The point is that this title is bait. ICE has been pointing (and shooting) at peoples' faces all year with rubber bullets, tear gas, and other crowd control weapons. This title makes it sound as if they're waving live rounds around in this picture.
If that distinction doesn't matter to you, then you are free to happily go about your day without giving it a second thought.
Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 22 pts · 309d
That's a stupid distinction because either will kill at that distance aimed where they are.
Ascrod@midwest.social · -16 pts · 309d
Right, but ICE has been doing this for a while. It's bad, but it's not new. As far as I'm aware, ICE hasn't brandished or used live rounds in close quarters (as in this picture) yet.
I think the distinction is important because if ICE starts using live rounds on protesters, people are going to start retaliating with live rounds. Then we're in full-on mask-off civil war territory, no more pretending. Blurring that distinction is playing with fire, IMO.
Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 309d
Dude police shoot people all the time.
They treat a gun shaped item as a gun, with live ammunition all the time.
"As far as you are aware" is worth nothing.
x00z@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 309d
I'll remember that when my life flashes before my eyes when somebody shoves this in my face.