You're not the only one wondering what happened to the definition of the word humor. I also see so many webcomics that I think only someone whose age is in the single digits would actually find funny get posted & receive all sorts of positive responses. I just don't understand - is it because there's so much less in-person social interaction than there used to be? I don't get it.
I know I'm getting old so it's increasingly difficult to find amusing stuff I haven't seen before, but a LOT of this shit is stuff I'm pretty sure even thoroughly clueless teenager me wouldn't have found funny. I've always felt my perspectives and preference for the truth no matter how ugly put me on the outside looking in at the rest of the human race, but the feeling of disassociation from the rest of humanity is reaching heights I didn't think were possible.
they belong in a grave. don't change my mind because you can't. they will get off scot free every time until you bury them, and continue to do it until they are too scared then in a hundred years they will have forgotten fear and it will happen again.
This must be extended to everyone who supported the MAGA regime. All the Silicon Valley executives. Everyone in the Heritage Foundation think-tank. Every ICE agent who went out on deportation rounds. Every member of the cabinet; Theil, Musk, Patel. Every propagandist - Noem, Oz, Phil.
I imagine that, should this regime fall, Trump, Vance, and Miller will already be dead. What I'm wondering is: Is the USA going to let the domestic and foreign-backed terrorist network get away with it? I'm afraid they will unless we demand full executions. I think it would be wise, now, for people to start planning for how we demand the new administration hold every single one of these murderous rapist abusers accountable.
This is obviously fake, because the president of the USA would actually post a picture of himself wearing a crown whilst dropping shit on his subjects. That's the real image that the president would post
I’m new here, so this is a genuine question — not trying to stir things up.
I’m trying to understand how images like this fit within the community rules, especially the parts about ‘no misinformation’ and ‘good-faith arguments.’ It’s clearly political humor, but it also reads as a literal accusation list.
I haven’t seen any similar memes from the opposing perspective, so I’m wondering where the line is drawn. What qualifies as humor versus misinformation or bad faith here? I’m asking because I’d like to participate without accidentally breaking the rules myself.
Well, yes, that’s exactly what I’m getting at. The image presents a list of statements as ‘THE FACTS,’ yet none of them are backed by evidence or citations. They’re framed as literal confessions of criminal activity that have never been legally established.
For example:
• It claims he ‘staged a coup’ and ‘incited sedition’ — those are legal terms implying conviction, which hasn’t happened.
• It says ‘I knew I lost, I lied anyway,’ but that’s speculation about his internal thoughts, not a verified fact.
• It concludes with ‘We belong in prison,’ which again asserts guilt without due process.
That’s why I questioned it under the ‘no misinformation’ rule. Even if it’s meant as humor, it’s still presented as a factual list and I'm unsure if there’s similar treatment allowed for jokes about the opposite side as there seems to be none.
I’m not asking for it to be removed, just trying to understand where the boundary is between political humor and posts that make factual claims without evidence.
Yeah, a bit, I’m honestly just trying to figure out if this community applies its own rules evenly. I actually agree with the rules as written, but if it turns out they’re enforced with a double standard, I’d probably rather just leave or block the community instead of fighting it.
Yeah, I get the feeling I'd be definitely be considered a fascists to you for sure. Word has been so misused for so long though It's lost all meaning, so I'm cool with it.
Or maybe don't assume that people here aren't as politically uneducated as the rest of the people you interact with on social media.
I've been personally using Eco's term "ur-fascism" or nascent fascism until recently. Read the essay, it's only like 9 pages, and tell me it doesn't describe recent US history.
However now we are past that point, and we've gone full on fascist.
I'd love for you to explain to me why I'm wrong though.
Yeah, I’ve read Eco’s Ur-Fascism, the full nine-page essay everyone likes to name-drop as proof we’ve hit fascism 2.0. It’s not a checklist where you can tick a few boxes and yell “we’re fascist now.” Eco’s whole argument is that fascism isn’t a single coherent system; it’s a messy collage of emotional instincts that can appear anywhere, left, right, religious, secular. He even calls it “a fuzzy totalitarianism,” meaning it has no fixed core.
If you actually line up his 14 points against the U.S. in 2025, the comparison doesn’t hold. There’s no cult of tradition or sacred national myth, America is perpetually arguing about what to change, not what to preserve. There’s no rejection of modernism; we’re obsessed with technology and innovation. We don’t live in a culture of permanent warfare or heroic martyrdom; most Americans recoil from both. There’s no state-mandated Newspeak or enforced ideology, if anything, the problem is too much speech, not too little.
Sure, some traits echo faintly: populism, conspiracy rhetoric, social polarization. But those exist in every democracy during high-stress periods. Populism isn’t fascism; nor is cultural stupidity the same as dictatorship. Fascism, as Eco lived it, required one-party rule, abolished dissent, outlawed unions, censored the press, and built a cult of death and war. None of that defines the U.S.
So when you insist we’ve gone “full fascist,” you're not channeling Eco, you're contradicting him. He warned against moral laziness, against turning “fascism” into a universal curse word. Reducing every political decay or populist movement to fascism doesn’t enlighten anyone, it just proves how little critical thinking you've retained from the man’s essay in the first place.
And as for the part about not assuming people here are “politically uneducated”? You don’t need to assume anything, it’s self-evident when someone quotes Eco like scripture while missing the entire argument. Dressing it up in intellectual language doesn’t make it any less shallow
You didn’t have to quote Eco, you just repeated his buzzwords without context.
And no, we’re not “reliving Germany in the 1930s.” That comparison gets thrown around by people who know how that decade ended but not how it actually unfolded. Germany in the ’30s had a one-party regime, a silenced press, outlawed unions, political imprisonment, and a militarized propaganda machine. The U.S., for all its dysfunction, still has open elections, a free press, armed political opposition, and a population that can’t even agree on a movie to watch, let alone a dictator.
So maybe instead of reenacting Weimar trauma on Lemmy, you could start by actually reading the essay you’re invoking, or that history book you just recommended.
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FunctionallyLiterate@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 299d
As stated, these are facts - I'm missing the humor.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 299d
It’s the beanie.
heh.
FunctionallyLiterate@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 299d
Someone posted this in a comment somewhere today. It's a decade old, but probably more accurate than ever.
turdcollector69@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 297d
This is some Facebook tier garbage.
It sucks that "political humor" just means blatant circlejerk instead of actual humor.
It also sucks that some mouthbreather is going to interpret this criticism as an endorsement of trump.
FunctionallyLiterate@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 297d
You're not the only one wondering what happened to the definition of the word humor. I also see so many webcomics that I think only someone whose age is in the single digits would actually find funny get posted & receive all sorts of positive responses. I just don't understand - is it because there's so much less in-person social interaction than there used to be? I don't get it.
I know I'm getting old so it's increasingly difficult to find amusing stuff I haven't seen before, but a LOT of this shit is stuff I'm pretty sure even thoroughly clueless teenager me wouldn't have found funny. I've always felt my perspectives and preference for the truth no matter how ugly put me on the outside looking in at the rest of the human race, but the feeling of disassociation from the rest of humanity is reaching heights I didn't think were possible.
Grass@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 299d
they belong in a grave. don't change my mind because you can't. they will get off scot free every time until you bury them, and continue to do it until they are too scared then in a hundred years they will have forgotten fear and it will happen again.
ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 298d
I believe this is the proscribed punishment for treason.
KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 298d
This must be extended to everyone who supported the MAGA regime. All the Silicon Valley executives. Everyone in the Heritage Foundation think-tank. Every ICE agent who went out on deportation rounds. Every member of the cabinet; Theil, Musk, Patel. Every propagandist - Noem, Oz, Phil.
I imagine that, should this regime fall, Trump, Vance, and Miller will already be dead. What I'm wondering is: Is the USA going to let the domestic and foreign-backed terrorist network get away with it? I'm afraid they will unless we demand full executions. I think it would be wise, now, for people to start planning for how we demand the new administration hold every single one of these murderous rapist abusers accountable.
Worx@lemmynsfw.com · 6 pts · 298d
This is obviously fake, because the president of the USA would actually post a picture of himself wearing a crown whilst dropping shit on his subjects. That's the real image that the president would post
shalafi@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 299d
We doing FaceBook level memes now?
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 298d
I dunno. Not on it.
turdcollector69@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 297d
This meme sucks, it's not funny it's just circlejerk material.
This is supposed to be a place for humor, not forwards from grandma
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 297d
You’re clearly a man of wealth and taste, turdcollector69, but I put it to you that there aren’t any comms for serious image-based comment.
turdcollector69@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 297d
I know garbage when I see it
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 297d
No doubt.
vegals@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 298d
I’m new here, so this is a genuine question — not trying to stir things up.
I’m trying to understand how images like this fit within the community rules, especially the parts about ‘no misinformation’ and ‘good-faith arguments.’ It’s clearly political humor, but it also reads as a literal accusation list.
I haven’t seen any similar memes from the opposing perspective, so I’m wondering where the line is drawn. What qualifies as humor versus misinformation or bad faith here? I’m asking because I’d like to participate without accidentally breaking the rules myself.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 298d
Is someone suggesting this is ‘misinformation’?
vegals@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 298d
Well, yes, that’s exactly what I’m getting at. The image presents a list of statements as ‘THE FACTS,’ yet none of them are backed by evidence or citations. They’re framed as literal confessions of criminal activity that have never been legally established.
For example: • It claims he ‘staged a coup’ and ‘incited sedition’ — those are legal terms implying conviction, which hasn’t happened. • It says ‘I knew I lost, I lied anyway,’ but that’s speculation about his internal thoughts, not a verified fact. • It concludes with ‘We belong in prison,’ which again asserts guilt without due process.
That’s why I questioned it under the ‘no misinformation’ rule. Even if it’s meant as humor, it’s still presented as a factual list and I'm unsure if there’s similar treatment allowed for jokes about the opposite side as there seems to be none.
I’m not asking for it to be removed, just trying to understand where the boundary is between political humor and posts that make factual claims without evidence.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 297d
Only the evidence of our eyes and ears.
vegals@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 297d
mhm.
Worx@lemmynsfw.com · 3 pts · 298d
No, they're asking what counts as misinformation and what counts as political humour so that they don't break the rules
vegals@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 298d
Yeah, a bit, I’m honestly just trying to figure out if this community applies its own rules evenly. I actually agree with the rules as written, but if it turns out they’re enforced with a double standard, I’d probably rather just leave or block the community instead of fighting it.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 297d
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 297d
The "opposing perspective" in this case is literal fascism, and we don't take kindly to that ideology in these parts.
vegals@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 297d
Yeah, I get the feeling I'd be definitely be considered a fascists to you for sure. Word has been so misused for so long though It's lost all meaning, so I'm cool with it.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 296d
Or maybe don't assume that people here aren't as politically uneducated as the rest of the people you interact with on social media.
I've been personally using Eco's term "ur-fascism" or nascent fascism until recently. Read the essay, it's only like 9 pages, and tell me it doesn't describe recent US history.
However now we are past that point, and we've gone full on fascist.
I'd love for you to explain to me why I'm wrong though.
vegals@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 295d
Yeah, I’ve read Eco’s Ur-Fascism, the full nine-page essay everyone likes to name-drop as proof we’ve hit fascism 2.0. It’s not a checklist where you can tick a few boxes and yell “we’re fascist now.” Eco’s whole argument is that fascism isn’t a single coherent system; it’s a messy collage of emotional instincts that can appear anywhere, left, right, religious, secular. He even calls it “a fuzzy totalitarianism,” meaning it has no fixed core.
If you actually line up his 14 points against the U.S. in 2025, the comparison doesn’t hold. There’s no cult of tradition or sacred national myth, America is perpetually arguing about what to change, not what to preserve. There’s no rejection of modernism; we’re obsessed with technology and innovation. We don’t live in a culture of permanent warfare or heroic martyrdom; most Americans recoil from both. There’s no state-mandated Newspeak or enforced ideology, if anything, the problem is too much speech, not too little.
Sure, some traits echo faintly: populism, conspiracy rhetoric, social polarization. But those exist in every democracy during high-stress periods. Populism isn’t fascism; nor is cultural stupidity the same as dictatorship. Fascism, as Eco lived it, required one-party rule, abolished dissent, outlawed unions, censored the press, and built a cult of death and war. None of that defines the U.S.
So when you insist we’ve gone “full fascist,” you're not channeling Eco, you're contradicting him. He warned against moral laziness, against turning “fascism” into a universal curse word. Reducing every political decay or populist movement to fascism doesn’t enlighten anyone, it just proves how little critical thinking you've retained from the man’s essay in the first place.
And as for the part about not assuming people here are “politically uneducated”? You don’t need to assume anything, it’s self-evident when someone quotes Eco like scripture while missing the entire argument. Dressing it up in intellectual language doesn’t make it any less shallow
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 295d
Did I even quote Eco, let alone as scripture?
Weird reply dude.
Read a history book. We are reliving Germany in the 1930s.
vegals@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 295d
You didn’t have to quote Eco, you just repeated his buzzwords without context. And no, we’re not “reliving Germany in the 1930s.” That comparison gets thrown around by people who know how that decade ended but not how it actually unfolded. Germany in the ’30s had a one-party regime, a silenced press, outlawed unions, political imprisonment, and a militarized propaganda machine. The U.S., for all its dysfunction, still has open elections, a free press, armed political opposition, and a population that can’t even agree on a movie to watch, let alone a dictator. So maybe instead of reenacting Weimar trauma on Lemmy, you could start by actually reading the essay you’re invoking, or that history book you just recommended.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 294d
If you actually know as much as you claim to about history and fascism, then I have to believe that you know exactly what you are doing.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 297d
x00z@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 297d
You're breaking the following rules:
ameancow@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 297d
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 297d
It's a visible refutation of the dominant narrative we know to be bullshit.
Thanks for stopping by.
Jerb322@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 297d
To whom it concerns, I'm stealing this and making a new sign...
theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 299d
I wish he was a traitor treason to america and everything it stands for is a good thing.