Help imaging a IDE drive

I am imaging this drive just in case it dies (from a 2000 gateway laptop I'm setting up for old games). it's a 2.5" IDE Toshiba drive. It works just fine, has Win 2k on it. I have tried 2 different IDE to usb adapters, and both have powered up the drive, but neither have shown anything in fdisk (on linux). No weird noises or bad clicking from the drive.

I do notice that the drive does not have any jumpers on it - so I didn't think I'd need to put a jumper on master (if it has that, i need to look closer) but I figured it would already have the jumper on master if it was the only drive in the laptop right?

SOLVED: FOR future humans: the issue was some of the usb ports on this desktop are not working. I believe the psu is failing. Drive imaged fine once I tried other ports!!

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bzLem0n@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 320d (3 replies)

Are either of the USB->IDE adapters ones with a second USB plug for more power? A long time ago I had issues using an adapter that didn't have a second plug as it wasn't supplying enough power to properly spin up the drive.

bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 320d (2 replies)

so the first adapter was a little smaller and had extra power for 3.5" drives but not 2.5". It still spun up fine though.

The next one I got is bigger, and has it's own little power supply for 2.5" drives as well as an extension for the molex on a 3.5" drive.

this is the one i use now: https://www.newegg.com/jansicotek-e02-usb-to-ide-sata/p/35G-00MX-00001?Item=9SIAD8FK4X1895

It still spins up the same. I'm not sure if it's just a linux issue but I find it weird since I've never had a peripheral that linux didn't at least acknowledge was there. I don't have a windows pc to really test it on either.

SanguineBrah@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 320d (1 reply)

I have found that the new adapters you can buy are very unreliable. I ended up buying a 20 y/o USB 2.0 dock on eBay and that seems to work with every drive I throw at it.

bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 319d

Thats a bummer. They sure took a nose dive in quality

Chronographs@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 320d (12 replies)

Based on this single 2.5” drives don’t use a jumper.

bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 320d (11 replies)

Oo yep that makes sense then.

Darn. I really hoped this would work. Im not sure how else to backup this drive, I mainly want to do that to keep the drivers intact

Chronographs@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 320d (10 replies)

Maybe try and boot something like clonezilla to the laptop you took it from instead of messing with shoddy adapters?

bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 320d (9 replies)

How would I clone it on the laptop

Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 320d (8 replies)

Plug the destination drive into the new USB adapter you got?

bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 320d (7 replies)

The laptop is too old to read a usb device like that without drivers

Shadow@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 320d

Boot a clonezilla or Linux CD, don't use your windows install. It should have proper USB support as long as you actually have USB ports.

Chronographs@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 320d (1 reply)

Could also try just a flash drive, I imagine whatever drive in there is pretty small. What ide adapters do you have anyways

bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 319d

Maybe clonezilla would recognize it. Windows isn't recognizing usb devices at the moment.

I put the adapter in the main post.

Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 320d (3 replies)

OK something that old surely has a serial port on it? If so, look in to "sneakernet" (it's a technique, not a product) to connect to another computer. I've even done networking over a serial port with linux, but there also used to be software just for copying files. That wouldn't give you a drive image but it would at least back up the software.

cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 320d

That hard drive is probably multiple gigabytes, it would take days to weeks to transfer that over a serial port. If the computer has a PC card slot, I would look for an ethernet adapter that would work with it.

cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 320d

I've also got a couple of older drives that my IDE to USB adapter refuses to work with. I never found a solution, but the drives work fine in a PC that has a real IDE interface.

lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 320d (1 reply)

Absolutely tangential but,

I first read this thread title as "Imagine having an IDE drive" and I couldn't stop thinking of some instance admin somewhere doing Mad Retro Science raising a lemmy instance on the power of i386 Void Linux and the spite of a pregraduate having to deal with a molex connector.

bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 320d

This is great hahah