I see you took the screenshot on your phone, I just tried it on mine and had no issues getting the proper link, even after updating it as I wrote this comment.
Can you describe more about where you encountered it?
It's only for links shared via WhatsApp for some reason. Not sure how they know you're sharing to WhatsApp... (Edit: firefox implements a custom share widget instead of the one provided by the OS, so they get a callback when the user selects the target)
OP is wrong about the "unique" part tho, I get the same URL as them.
Yes because the option to remove the advertisement link is inside Firefox. It might be that meta and Mozilla got some monetary agreement and this is even worse
Then just don't use it?
Just copy the link from the url bar, the link is not even unique and it's the same for everyone and other than that you can delete the link so i don't see the problem, is really that wrong for a browser that risk to be oppressed by the chrorium monopoly to advertise itself? It's not even invasive...
They promote themselves as a privacy browser, so they should have placed a splash screen "help us spread", with the toggle to add the ads in my chats. Having that link on by default is not pretty, especially in WhatsApp conversations where you share ten links
tldr; DDG specifically allows Microsoft, a company that profits from collecting specific user data, to collect some (anonymous) user data through its ad program.
I don't think it's proven that DDG creates user profiles like Google does, more that there is a concern that they receive their money from Microsoft, or that they have agreements with Microsoft to send them any data in the first place.
What do you mean? This is supposed to be sent to my friends. To a friend, a real message would be like "I'm using Firefox, get it at firefox.com" and not "I'm using Firefox, get it at domain.tld/garbage".
This time the "short" link isn't unique, but they still did this for tracking purposes and not for "convenience". I didn't check it but it will definitely resolve to something like hxxp://Firefox.domain ?utm_source=whatsapp&utm_medium=message&utm_campaign=promo&utm_id=wa-spam&utm_term=share&utm_content=click for maximum tracking analysis
Edit: TIL Lemmy automatically removes tracking tags from URLs... I had to type again my delicious tracking link...
Edit2: Lemmy removes tracking tags even from code blocks π²
Edit3: Lemmy removes tracking tags even with an invalid protocol
Edit4: Lemmy removes tracking tags even with invalid TLD
That's a helpful analysis! So there is zero tracking in there. It is just anonymous measurement of a campaign, which is perfectly fine. It is NOT person specific.
What i didn't understand is if this link to Firefox was inserted by you at all. It looks like it was appended to a completely unrelated link that you wanted to share. So Firefox hijacked your message to insert a second link. Is that correct? Because that would infuriate me. I found this seeing in my Firefox and it defaulted to be active.
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iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 281d
What is your "privacy" browser... And how did you disable this?
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 281d
It's Firefox, and there's a new "sharing" option in the menu that contains a toggle to disable this
arin@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 281d
Here is a sanitized Firefox fork https://librewolf.net/
CaptSatelliteJack@lemy.lol · 10 pts · 281d
Librewolf my beloved
hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 280d
There's Waterfox as well, but I still prefer Librewolf.
victorz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 280d
Why's that? Asking as a Firefox user.
dabster291@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 279d
Don't forget Ironfox for mobile!
arin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 279d
Thanks! I like their limitations page
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 8 pts · 280d
How exactly are you getting these in the first place? I just tried to share the url but it didn't do anything odd.
stoy@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 281d
Does this happen when you copypaste the URL?
Because messing with the clipboard is a really scary thing.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · -9 pts · 281d
No, only when using the share button
stoy@lemmy.zip · 22 pts · 281d
I see you took the screenshot on your phone, I just tried it on mine and had no issues getting the proper link, even after updating it as I wrote this comment.
Can you describe more about where you encountered it?
loutr@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 281d
It's only for links shared via WhatsApp for some reason. Not sure how they know you're sharing to WhatsApp... (Edit: firefox implements a custom share widget instead of the one provided by the OS, so they get a callback when the user selects the target)
OP is wrong about the "unique" part tho, I get the same URL as them.
Acamon@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 281d
Just tried sharing to WhatsApp, using the Firefox share button, on android. Link is normal.
loutr@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 280d
Well I tried it before commenting, and I see the same thing as OP... I'm on Firefox stable 145.0.1.
stoy@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 281d
Ah interesting!
That explains why I don't see it!
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · -13 pts · 281d
If the link it's the same for everyone then they should have definitely used firefox.com or a dedicated domain, not domain.tld/garbage
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 281d
They detect sharing on WhatsApp and inject the tracking link only on that case. It didn't do this yesterday so there's a chance it's on a/b testing
towerful@programming.dev · 4 pts · 281d
You sure it's not WhatsApp that's link-shortening?
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 281d
Yes because the option to remove the advertisement link is inside Firefox. It might be that meta and Mozilla got some monetary agreement and this is even worse
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 3 pts · 281d
Then just don't use it? Just copy the link from the url bar, the link is not even unique and it's the same for everyone and other than that you can delete the link so i don't see the problem, is really that wrong for a browser that risk to be oppressed by the chrorium monopoly to advertise itself? It's not even invasive...
loutr@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 281d
Sharing is much quicker than copy/pasting manually, especially with direct share targets.
It might not be the end of the world, but Mozilla really should have made the "feature" opt-in, or at least give us a heads up.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 281d
They promote themselves as a privacy browser, so they should have placed a splash screen "help us spread", with the toggle to add the ads in my chats. Having that link on by default is not pretty, especially in WhatsApp conversations where you share ten links
kilgore_trout@feddit.it · 1 pts · 280d
You can disable itβ¦
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 281d
There's a ESR release.
solomonschuler@lemmy.zip · -3 pts · 281d
victorz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 280d
DDG tracks its users? Is there any definitive proof of this?
dusty_raven@discuss.online · 2 pts · 279d
https://factually.co/fact-checks/technology/does-duckduckgo-track-you-809f45
https://blog.ssuiteoffice.com/articles/general/duckduckgo-privacy-controversy.htm
tldr; DDG specifically allows Microsoft, a company that profits from collecting specific user data, to collect some (anonymous) user data through its ad program.
I don't think it's proven that DDG creates user profiles like Google does, more that there is a concern that they receive their money from Microsoft, or that they have agreements with Microsoft to send them any data in the first place.
victorz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 278d
Very interesting, thank you for providing this info! π
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 281d
nocksock@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 281d
Firefox is no longer a privacy browser.
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 281d
Besides tor, known any other alternatives?
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 12 pts · 281d
Femnec on mobile, Librewolf on desktop
Morphite88@thelemmy.club · 6 pts · 281d
Cromite, Fennec
gigachad@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 281d
https://f-droid.org/packages/org.mozilla.fennec_fdroid
decipher_jeanne@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 281d
I mean, something like Lynx is probably as private as you get. Might be lacking a few features like, anything graphical. Still relatively usable imo
Prime@lemmy.sdf.org · 11 pts · 280d
Is that a unique tracking link? It looks more like a regular short link. I call fake news on this one.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 280d
there's no reason to use a "short" link when it's longer than the real "long" link
Prime@lemmy.sdf.org · 6 pts · 280d
Perhaps, but that does not mean it's not the case.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 280d
if i see domain.tld/garbage i have to assume they did it for tracking, not the opposite or for "shortening" it
Prime@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 280d
No, that's wrong. All url shorteners work exactly like that. How did you get the initial link anyway?
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 279d
What do you mean? This is supposed to be sent to my friends. To a friend, a real message would be like "I'm using Firefox, get it at firefox.com" and not "I'm using Firefox, get it at domain.tld/garbage".
This time the "short" link isn't unique, but they still did this for tracking purposes and not for "convenience". I didn't check it but it will definitely resolve to something like
hxxp://Firefox.domain ?utm_source=whatsapp&utm_medium=message&utm_campaign=promo&utm_id=wa-spam&utm_term=share&utm_content=clickfor maximum tracking analysisEdit: TIL Lemmy automatically removes tracking tags from URLs... I had to type again my delicious tracking link...
Edit2: Lemmy removes tracking tags even from code blocks π²
Edit3: Lemmy removes tracking tags even with an invalid protocol
Edit4: Lemmy removes tracking tags even with invalid TLD
Prime@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 279d
That's a helpful analysis! So there is zero tracking in there. It is just anonymous measurement of a campaign, which is perfectly fine. It is NOT person specific.
What i didn't understand is if this link to Firefox was inserted by you at all. It looks like it was appended to a completely unrelated link that you wanted to share. So Firefox hijacked your message to insert a second link. Is that correct? Because that would infuriate me. I found this seeing in my Firefox and it defaulted to be active.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 279d
Yes, Firefox detected that I shared to Whatsapp, then added the second link at the end of my message. I was pissed
YgestWefsid@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 281d
"Here is an option for you to anonymously browse, but you will have to let us know where you are going first" type anonymity.
Edit: I forgot to tell anonymity and privacy are two different things. Just telling it because some people might think they serve the same purpose.
heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net · -1 pts · 280d
I like the duckduckgo browser