Israeli forces kill Palestinian men in West Bank after they appear to surrender
https://apnews.com/article/mideast-wars-israel-gaza-11-27-2025-7facef5a4a34f70fea8b2ea0b920002f
https://apnews.com/article/mideast-wars-israel-gaza-11-27-2025-7facef5a4a34f70fea8b2ea0b920002f
42 Comments
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works · 84 pts · 297d
The IDF is filled with racist motherfuckers who should be charged with murder and promptly sent to the worst jail in the world.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 53 pts · 297d
Seriously, the IDF is hardly a professional military at this point, in most ways it is simply a formalized institution for ethnic cleansing using expensive military equipment they are given as handouts by the US military.
The IDF does not even follow basic rules of engagement, they see a civilian, have impulse feelings about it and then shoot. No threat analysis, no consideration over whether lethal force is necessary by a chain of command and absolutely NO accountability for blatant horrific war crimes. The IDF is not a military, it is a bunch of murderers wearing military fatigues.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 18 pts · 297d
Not disagreeing, but "at this point" implies they were ever anything else.
homura1650@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 296d
Back in 1994, the IDF granted Itamar Ben-Gvir an exemption from mandatory military service due to his right wing views. He has since been convicted (in Israeli courts) of supporting a terrorist organization, and is currently serving as Israel's minister of national security; and is a key figure in maintaining the current governing coalition.
The governing coalition has been in constant tension with senior IDF leadership, which has long argued that all achievable military objectives in Gaza have been achieved, and that continued operation is counter productive.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 12 pts · 296d
The IDF is still full of foot soldiers who have willingly and knowingly prosecuted the Palestinian Genocide, the entire "military" structure is complicit top to bottom. IDF soldiers all the way from the top leadership down to grunts deserve to be in jail equally.
Israeli society has been radicalized into genocide, complicity is omnipresent and distributed down chains of command, if IDF personnel think they can argue "I was just following orders!" they are ignorant fools who refused to learn history or listen to basic calls for human empathy and they deserve to be prosecuted as active and willing participants in the Palestinian Genocide to the full extent possible.
demonsword@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 296d
Over 120k people dead. Most buildings and infrastructure turned to rubble. "Mission accomplished".
PanGodofPanic@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 297d
They've proven themselves a capable actual army in the past against numerically far superior opponents, displaying both organizational and individual competence alongside their evil. Now they don't even have that. It's just a very well funded gang.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 15 pts · 297d
Yeah that's fair, though I do have to note that other than Yom Kippur in none of Israel's past conflicts was it seriously outnumbered. That's the image they like to sell, and intuitively it feels like it should be true, but it's really not. Israel has always been good at raising massive armies relative to their population, and for instance surprisingly way outnumbered their enemies in 1948. Again not contesting your point; I agree that they were much more competent in the past.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 296d
If you refer to the 47 it is propaganda. The numbers of soldiers on both sides was very close and at first the zionists militias weapons was inferior but chsnged quickly
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 296d
My understanding is that they absolutely get their shit pushed in when they can't hide behind their airplanes and have to fight armed adversaries in face-to-face combat.
bold_atlas@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 296d
Oct 7th offensive was only turned around when gunships showed up. "The best most badass armed forces" in one of the most fortified and militarized region on earth were utterly destroyed by guys with trucks and AKs.
The myth of the IDF being elite and uniquely brave is one of the biggest dog shit lies ever told.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 296d
Not only the idf but israeli leadership since it's creation
andrewrgross@slrpnk.net · 42 pts · 297d
The murdered we're Al-Muntasir Billah Abdullah, 26; and Youssef Asasa, 37.
Their poor families.. Also, fuck the AP for making that paragraph 11. Jeez.
jazzkoalapaws@ttrpg.network · 42 pts · 297d
Here's the video: https://files.catbox.moe/58sxzg.mp4
Modern "journalism" is a crock of shit.
DaMummy@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 297d
For the people who want to see the video. PS: DON'T. There's a good reason outlets are only posting pictures. https://veganism.social/users/vega/statuses/115624229593254481
answersplease77@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 297d
and took the bodies afterward for organ harvesting
perestroika@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 296d
answersplease77@lemmy.world wrote:
False. Instead they used an excacator to collapse part of the warehouse building (the rather large liftable door) on the victims' bodies, likely hoping to hide their deeds for a while. They were unaware that a journalist was filming them with a telephoto lens.
answersplease77@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 296d
You are false. Watch the full video at 2:05 they brought a stretcher to take the bodies afterward:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=B7t-IGOokbU
and there have hundrends of bodies returned with missing organs. It's their standard protocol to take the bodies they execute same as this video too:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UnderReportedNews/comments/1oy9f94/israeli_soldiers_were_filmed_assaulting_a/
perestroika@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 295d
Stop bluffing, unless you know what it takes to get an organ successfully transplanted to someone. And I see you don't.
A really simple rule: if one would intend to get transplantable organs, one would not drop construction material on the person. One would transport the person to a hospital without any delay. Doctors would be the persons telling of which violations are happening.
As things are, both Israel and some other countries (Russia) have the habit of returning the bodies of some prisoners who died under suspicious circumstances without some organs. For example, an Ukrainian journalist's body was returned without her brain and throat. No, she's not living in another body, brain transplants are fantasy. She was likely strangled to death and organs removed to conceal torture.
I am currently under the impression that this practise serves the purpose of concealing torture (or other crimes) in several places, with one exception - China.
China has been credibly accused of actually harvesting organs from prisoners executed in prisons. This is feasible for them, since a prisoner after execution can be tested before they are killed, and is immediately available for dissection and cooling of organs, which can then be rushed to an airport for sending to the correct hospital. I have good reason to suspect it's happening. Needless to say, it's an extremely serious crime.
However, I have not heard of any successful (no matter whether voluntary or forced) organ donation from a person who experienced circulatory death in field conditions and was transported slowly from a considerable distance. Jenin is in the West Bank. Do you think doctors in the West Bank would accommodate a request from the IDF to remove, test and cool organs for from a shooting victim for transplantation? I don't think even Israeli doctors would.
If you think differently, I would like to see evidence.
As the thread tells us, IDF committed two war crimes: shooting prisoners and desecrating their bodies. There is no need to spread silly rumours on top of that. Reality is bad enough.
answersplease77@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 295d
First, there are hundreds of pieces of evidence and doctor testimonies proving that the IOF have been organ harvesting their hostages.
Secondly regarding this case, I hope you're right and I hope the IOF are incapable of doing further crimes to these bodies. It's also a sad relief that the they just executed them instead of torturing them to death as the IOF have been doing to whoever they capture.
perestroika@slrpnk.net · 0 pts · 294d
Hundreds aren't needed, a reference to maybe 3 highest credibility reports that you have, would be good to look at.
answersplease77@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 294d
https://lemmy.world/comment/20435119
all this list of articles + look up the testomonies of doctors who worked in Gaza's docotrs without borders foundations on youtube. + Dr Ghassan Abu Sittah 's photos & testimony that he gave when he came back. Those are all UK, US, Australian doctors btw.. not Khhaamahuus. I know your lame butt is too cynical and too lazy to google this yourself. You see the list I gave you in that comment? at lesst 20 sources right there. It's not my issue if you are not convinced, and I will not do your homework.
You go do your research or choose to stuff your stinking propagonda you desprately try to spread despite the truth and hundrends of resources and testominies there up your brain and live with it.
ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com · -7 pts · 297d
Things are bad enough without such baseless claims.
LemmyThinkAboutThat@lemmy.myserv.one · 18 pts · 297d
Maybe @answerplease77@lemmy.world was referring to:
Which came from:
Israel Organ Harvesting Allegations Explained
The links below may be referring to the same article:
What evidence supports allegations of Israeli harvesting and who has investigated them? Checked on November 25, 2025
A brief history of Israel’s theft and trafficking of Palestinian organs
I must apologize as I haven’t read the rest of the results, but I used search.disroot.org and the articles above are outdated.
ashar@infosec.pub · 8 pts · 296d
Guess who has the world's largest skin bank, but also a very low rate of donors?
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 5 pts · 296d
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/gaza-authorities-accuse-israel-of-stealing-organs-from-released-palestinian-bodies/3719641
ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 296d
I'm aware of the claims. The claim the commenter made was that they took the bodies of the two in the story for this purpose, which is baseless.
There's a big difference from "there are occurrences of a thing happening" vs. "the thing is happening right now, right here, to these people."
If you think every odd body is getting hauled off for organ harvesting, you're being a little nuts. It was stated to invoke an emotional response, making a bad an evil situation seem more bad and more evil without any evidence. Just internet hatemongering shock value that doesn't do any good and just distracts from the issue.
answersplease77@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 296d
Watch the full video I linked up. They dragged the bodies afterward. Nothing far fetched by what they intend to do with them as they've done thousands times before.
https://lemmy.world/comment/20435119
https://lemmy.world/comment/20750350
perestroika@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 295d
You should learn a bit of biology or medicine.
tym@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 296d
ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 296d
Plenty of reasons to hate Israel, but my toast that burnt this morning can't be blamed on them. Has Israel burnt toast? Most likely. Does israel have systematic policies in place, or an unspoken culture, regarding burnt toast? Maybe; it should probably be investigated. Did they burn my toast this morning? I have no basis to suspect that, but I could go around yelling about it and people might even agree because there are lots of proven things to hate Israel for already and it's the internet...
But yes, it certainly is maxed; which makes this behavior even weirder to me.
tym@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 296d
bold_atlas@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 296d
If people don't watch it then the IDF wins. The videos and photos documenting atrocities are being suppressed with the excuse that they are "too graphic" for the general public to see.
DaMummy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 296d
Graphic isn't even the right term to describe it. It's just... Nonchalant. It's very much like that recent Oscar winning movie about Nazi Germany, where people are just living their lives while horrors are happening in the background. There's way more graphic footage of this genocide, but this one just struck me in a weird way.
answersplease77@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 297d
same exact thing that happened few months ago too. IOF ambushed a guy in the West Bank who surrendered with both his hands up
https://youtube.com/watch?v=uPNqYEV3z1c
https://youtube.com/shorts/1r5E039-fUc
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 297d
That sounds like Israel. A country that should be bombed into the ground on the character traits of its armed services alone, without even getting into the politics or history of the place.
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · -5 pts · 296d
Well yeah. Much safer to do so then when they are shooting back.