Is this worth setting up in a homelab context? I have two VE nodes and one Backup server and I kind of want to play around with this but I feel like it'll be way overkill lol
Nah. Spin it up. It was a buggy POS when I last tried it, so don't expect too much. But what are ya doing homelab for? Mostly people want to learn and play. You should play with this toy.
One if the things I appreciated about proxmox is that each instance in a cluster provides an interface for all members of the cluster. Thus i would say this concept makes zero sense for a few systems in one place.
Contrast with VMware where you got stuck with vcenter if you had more than a single hypervisor.
vCenter itself wasn't really useful until version 4.x or so. It got a lot more modern at 5.5, the dawn of the recognizable vCenter, but up to that point people considered vCenter optional.
In much the same fashion, this PDM is just a bolt-on addition right now, nearly useless.
But its gonna become a locus for service management, and it will eventually be an integral piece of your cluster.
I would like to see PDM bring new DR replication capabilities to us. Sorely needed.
"stable"
This PDM software is not going to be stable. Its a brand new 1.0 product from a company that moves fast and breaks shit. I doubt they went a single day without releasing patches for this thing.
I have a collection of the PDM alpha releases. That was some of the raw-est most-uncooked spaghetti I've ever seen served up by a software company. There is no way they got this thing across the finish line. It's gonna have issues.
That said, this vcenter-like hyper-hypervisor console showed some promise. It provided one brand new capability, hot vmotion between clusters. While the data displayed about clusters and hosts had a janky feel, it was some sort of common interface.
A poor start, but a start nonetheless.
I dunno. It wasn't useful enough for me. I'll look at it again later.
I'm slowly working PVE 9 and PBS 4 into my environment, now that they've aged to a .1 rev, and that's got me plenty busy.
Claiming that PDM is a buggy mess because you had bad experiences with a alpha release is a bold statement.
I haven't tested it but according to the Proxmox team they have put it though a bunch of testing. There will always be bugs but in general when Proxmox calls something stable it is stable.
11 Comments
ikidd@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 266d
God, I want to hit someone so hard right now...
dbtng@eviltoast.org · 3 pts · 264d
for centralized, enterprise-wide visibility and continual business transformation to the agile hyperscale agentic industry of ... um ... i lost track.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 264d
Why?
spitfire@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 262d
Corp0 speak
NotSteve_@piefed.ca · 5 pts · 266d
Is this worth setting up in a homelab context? I have two VE nodes and one Backup server and I kind of want to play around with this but I feel like it'll be way overkill lol
dbtng@eviltoast.org · 2 pts · 264d
Nah. Spin it up. It was a buggy POS when I last tried it, so don't expect too much. But what are ya doing homelab for? Mostly people want to learn and play. You should play with this toy.
jj4211@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 264d
One if the things I appreciated about proxmox is that each instance in a cluster provides an interface for all members of the cluster. Thus i would say this concept makes zero sense for a few systems in one place.
Contrast with VMware where you got stuck with vcenter if you had more than a single hypervisor.
dbtng@eviltoast.org · 1 pts · 263d
vCenter itself wasn't really useful until version 4.x or so. It got a lot more modern at 5.5, the dawn of the recognizable vCenter, but up to that point people considered vCenter optional.
In much the same fashion, this PDM is just a bolt-on addition right now, nearly useless.
But its gonna become a locus for service management, and it will eventually be an integral piece of your cluster.
I would like to see PDM bring new DR replication capabilities to us. Sorely needed.
dbtng@eviltoast.org · -2 pts · 264d
"stable"
This PDM software is not going to be stable. Its a brand new 1.0 product from a company that moves fast and breaks shit. I doubt they went a single day without releasing patches for this thing.
I have a collection of the PDM alpha releases. That was some of the raw-est most-uncooked spaghetti I've ever seen served up by a software company. There is no way they got this thing across the finish line. It's gonna have issues.
That said, this vcenter-like hyper-hypervisor console showed some promise. It provided one brand new capability, hot vmotion between clusters. While the data displayed about clusters and hosts had a janky feel, it was some sort of common interface.
A poor start, but a start nonetheless.
I dunno. It wasn't useful enough for me. I'll look at it again later. I'm slowly working PVE 9 and PBS 4 into my environment, now that they've aged to a .1 rev, and that's got me plenty busy.
EDIT: Should you decide to have a Proxmox Datacenter Manager adventure, you're really going to want to view the stickied threads at their dedicated forum.
https://forum.proxmox.com/forums/datacenter-manager-installation-and-configuration.28/
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 264d
Source?
Claiming that PDM is a buggy mess because you had bad experiences with a alpha release is a bold statement.
I haven't tested it but according to the Proxmox team they have put it though a bunch of testing. There will always be bugs but in general when Proxmox calls something stable it is stable.
dbtng@eviltoast.org · 0 pts · 264d
Fire it up.