If one wants to get a little nutty and dive into the religious esoterics, the theory of Hell is one in which people who cannot coexist peacefully are forced to exist separately.
Hell is something wicked people create for themselves. You burn for eternity because you've rejected a model of life that doesn't involve tormenting other people for your own satisfaction and surrounded yourself with people who feel the same way.
Incidentally, this is an idea Hazbin Hotel explores in its second season.
Hell is something wicked people create for themselves. You burn for eternity because you’ve rejected a model of life that doesn’t involve tormenting other people for your own satisfaction and surrounded yourself with people who feel the same way.
Or if we are talking about Christianity, you also go there if you are an apostate. And since I have not believed in the Bible since I was 7 I would also be heading down there.
8 If your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire. 9 And if your eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell.
This is an interpretation often pushed as the only answer by particular sects but it's not accurate to say that every Christian sect. believes this. Belief as a prerequisite to heaven is not universally held amongst all Christian sects.
So, there's a great movie by Martin Scorsese called "Silence", and it tackles the question of apostasy through the eyes of Portuguese monks prostapytizing illegally in Japan in the 17th century. It reaches very different conclusions.
Theology is fun.
The Bible is thick with metaphor and allegory. And anyone who says with certainly the exact things you need to say and do to "get into Heaven" is lying.
Beyond that, the verse is dramatic but it isn't unreasonable. How many times have we heard some diehard Christian Minister insist they were seduced into sin by wicked temptations of the flesh? "I cheated on my wife because that whore woman exposed herself to me!"
No, you don't get to blame infidelity on someone else's appearance. If your eyes are so treaturous that they cause this much trouble - if you have no other way of controlling yourself - tear them out. Make it your problem, not theirs.
And if you're a police officer or a soldier who cannot control your reflexes. If you pull your gun and fire on someone out of conditioned training, and you want to make it their fault for starling you? If you stomped on a man's neck until he was dead, because that's the only way you knew how to do your job?
No, you don't get to blame your reflexive violence on other people triggering your nerves. Cut off your hands. Cut off your feet. If you have no other way of sparing others from your compulsive behavior, take the weight of the struggle onto yourself.
Do this or you will be condemned to join those who did not. And you can be driven by your base vulgar behaviors together. And the place you build for yourselves will be a Hell.
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UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 275d
If one wants to get a little nutty and dive into the religious esoterics, the theory of Hell is one in which people who cannot coexist peacefully are forced to exist separately.
Hell is something wicked people create for themselves. You burn for eternity because you've rejected a model of life that doesn't involve tormenting other people for your own satisfaction and surrounded yourself with people who feel the same way.
Incidentally, this is an idea Hazbin Hotel explores in its second season.
ThefuzzyFurryComrade@pawb.social · 3 pts · 274d
Or if we are talking about Christianity, you also go there if you are an apostate. And since I have not believed in the Bible since I was 7 I would also be heading down there.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+18%3A8-9&version=NIV
Theology is fun.
tomenzgg@midwest.social · 1 pts · 274d
This is an interpretation often pushed as the only answer by particular sects but it's not accurate to say that every Christian sect. believes this. Belief as a prerequisite to heaven is not universally held amongst all Christian sects.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 274d
So, there's a great movie by Martin Scorsese called "Silence", and it tackles the question of apostasy through the eyes of Portuguese monks prostapytizing illegally in Japan in the 17th century. It reaches very different conclusions.
The Bible is thick with metaphor and allegory. And anyone who says with certainly the exact things you need to say and do to "get into Heaven" is lying.
Beyond that, the verse is dramatic but it isn't unreasonable. How many times have we heard some diehard Christian Minister insist they were seduced into sin by wicked temptations of the flesh? "I cheated on my wife because that whore woman exposed herself to me!"
No, you don't get to blame infidelity on someone else's appearance. If your eyes are so treaturous that they cause this much trouble - if you have no other way of controlling yourself - tear them out. Make it your problem, not theirs.
And if you're a police officer or a soldier who cannot control your reflexes. If you pull your gun and fire on someone out of conditioned training, and you want to make it their fault for starling you? If you stomped on a man's neck until he was dead, because that's the only way you knew how to do your job?
No, you don't get to blame your reflexive violence on other people triggering your nerves. Cut off your hands. Cut off your feet. If you have no other way of sparing others from your compulsive behavior, take the weight of the struggle onto yourself.
Do this or you will be condemned to join those who did not. And you can be driven by your base vulgar behaviors together. And the place you build for yourselves will be a Hell.
TheNokMachine@pawb.social · 1 pts · 275d
Not sure that I understood everything but congrats 👏
Also, tried to watch Hazbin Hotel but got sick of it when I saw that the only thing it's about is sex (the candels, jokes, some characters...).
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 275d
Its a very horny show. But there's a ton in it about the influence of mass media and class politics. Felt a bit like if a pervert wrote MLP.
tacosanonymous@mander.xyz · 5 pts · 275d
Wait. MLP wasn’t written by a pervert?
TheNokMachine@pawb.social · 1 pts · 274d
I still probably won't continue watching it.