The developer team at Discord released a new engineering blog post yesterday (December 8th) detailing lots of fixes, along with some Linux improvements. As one of the most popular chat apps in the world, it's good to see their support of Linux continue to get better over time.
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OR3X@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 250d
That's great and all but Discord is still on my short list of services to ditch.AND FFS DISCORD, I DO NOT WANT NITRO, I JUST WANT TO TALK TO MY FRIENDS!!
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 249d
There's really nothing else out there that can do all it does.
Man do I hate its UI though. Ick.
comrade19@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 249d
Update 1 of 15 Every day
dudesss@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 250d
Using Matrix with Element instead?
Mikina@programming.dev · 1 pts · 249d
If you aren't already using it, https://vencord.dev/ is a good Discord client mod that lets you get rid of some of the annoying features.
Might be against ToS, but so far I don't think people had any issues with it.
Another option (that I use when I don't need voice) is having your own Matrix server with Discord bridge. With double puppeting it can bridge both servers and DMs, and post in your name (without needing a bot on the server).
R00bot@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 23 pts · 250d
Why are we saying Linux PCs AND steam deck? The steam deck is just a Linux PC. Unless custom work was done for it?
Dremor@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 250d
A lot of custom work was done for it. Custom drivers, custom window manager, most of it upstreamed, if not all. It is not as different as an Android Phone, but I believe we can say it is not primarily a Linux PC, but rather an handheld that comes with an integrated Linux PC.
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -8 pts · 250d
No, it's a Linux PC. You just never leave steam big picture mode if you're basic.
Dremor@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 250d
So is any Android phone in such case. Form factor matters.
The Deck is a Linux handheld, that can be converted to a Linux PC depending on the accessories used. But by itself, with no accessories whatsoever, good luck using it as a PC.
A laptop can be considered as a PC, as it has all the peripheral integrated into his chassis, a desktop too (as it cannot be used without peripherals, they can be counted as part of it), but a Deck primary use is handheld gaming, not personal computing. Its included peripherals cannot allow it use as such.
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -5 pts · 250d
It's... Not a desktop?
It is a personal computer, it runs Linux, I recognize KDE, I can fuck around in terminal. In what ways is it not a personal computer? I don't understand.
Also, are you a llm from like 2021?
Dremor@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 250d
I'm a human with an opinion you may not share, for whom English is not his primary language. So grammatical error are to be expected. Now if you can come down of your high horse and not assume anyone with whom you do not agree is a LLM, that'd be great.
Try to do a spreadsheet on the deck without any accessory. It is possible, but very fastidious. It isn't an hardware made to do personal computing (aka, a PC), it is an hardware to play game.
A PC isn't just a software, it is also a hardware specifically made to allow various computing tasks. Calculus, graphical work of various kinds, sometimes games (which have to adapt to peripherals that weren't made for games in mind).
A Deck is made for games first, and the various other task you may want to do have to work around its limitation. From my point of view, this cannot be called a PC.
But that's my opinion, I won't force anyone else to agree with me, or call them a LLM out of spite.
ChairmanMeow@programming.dev · -2 pts · 249d
I mean, try to do a spreadsheet on a PC without any accessories. You can't, because there's no monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc... All accessories. By this logic, only laptops can really be called PCs.
Replace any desktop tower with a Steam Deck and you'll find it's perfectly capable of doing the same job.
Dremor@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 249d
A desktop computer cannot be used without peripheral (unless you use it as a server). They where separated from the chassis for flexibility sake, not because they were optional.
There was a time where everything was integrated into the chassis, screen included. Those were hefty beasts, loud, and hard to maintain, because when a peripheral broke, you had to service the whole unit instead of swapping the keyboard to a new one.
As for the Deck, you have everything you need for its intended use, no peripheral needed. Of course, you can add some to make it work like a PC, but in such case, is it still only a Deck ?
We could argue for ages around that, but I think it boils down to philosophy. Some prefers maximalist definition, other prefer minimalist definition. I'm obviously of the later school, and you of the former.
So, how about we agree to have different opinions on the matter, and go on our respective way, instead of throwing oil on the fire of a sterile debate ?
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -4 pts · 250d
Think this might be a language issue then.
victorz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 250d
Bad form, dude. Tisk.
joyjoy@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 250d
If you never leave Big Picture mode, then you probably don't run Discord.
Blisterexe@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 249d
Everyone else in this comments section didn't read the article lmao, it's because they did steam deck specific fixes.
R00bot@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 249d
Yea you're right. I read the article after commenting and realised my mistake lol. Some of the replies have been entertaining though.
LiveLM@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 250d
For the common Joe who has a Steam Deck and doesn't really care if it's powered by Linux or BSD or whatever
arendjr@programming.dev · 1 pts · 248d
It may be a kind of Linux PC, but it’s not just a Linux PC. (Also not a fan of the American language…)
msokiovt@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 250d
Good stuff. Now stop the espionage and make Diacord open-source and Free Software. Otherwise, I refuse to use it.
data1701d@startrek.website · 7 pts · 249d
I would ditch Discord, but the TMBW server is just so darn good and I can't leave that behind. Maybe I could convince them to set up a Matrix bridge (they already self-host MediaWiki), but then they'd probably end up basically doing this just for me.
My university's Linux User's Group is on Discord, but they have it bridged with a Matrix server; due to the current state of things in the US, they only allow political discussion in certain encrypted channels that are exclusive to the Matrix server.
Mikina@programming.dev · 3 pts · 249d
As far as I know you can do double puppeting with Matrix discord bridges, or whatever it is called.
As in "the bridge posts using your account, and not a bot". I have it set up on my own Matrix server, and I have servers and DMs bridged without issues.
Also, setting up a server with the ansible project is super easy, it's one of those rare cases where the ansible is robust, easy to use and actually doesn't break.
Dumhuvud@programming.dev · 6 pts · 249d
Alternatively, use Vesktop. It has telemetry removed. And it's actually developed with Linux in mind.
Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 249d
No global keybinds is a huge dealbreaker for me
swelter_spark@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 248d
I've gotta look into this. I'm not really satisfied with Ripcord.
zimno@piefed.social · 5 pts · 250d
Please don't install this shit on your computer
DeFaced@piefed.world · 21 pts · 250d
What's the alternative then? Because I can't really think of one that's as easy as discord to stand up a server for your friends and manage access to it, not to mention audio and video with screen sharing. I guess teamspeak 3, but holy shit is it convoluted and complicated to setup and manage for the everyday user. There's gilded but fuck that shit I'm not supporting the Roblox company. Revolt is another but there is no voice chat, no video chat, no screen sharing and it's filled with sketchy people. Matrix? Sure, but it's not easy to setup and manage at all. Discord works for what it needs to do and the features it has, if there's an alternative I'm more than willing to try it out but so far there's just nothing that comes close to the ease of use of discord. Discord is also supported on both Xbox and PlayStation, Sony even owns a minority stake in the company.
jrgd@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 250d
Revolt rebranded as Stoat and does have voice chat with discord-style hotseat channels available in beta. I still wouldn't recommend it yet due to client bugs, but it's getting there.
dgdft@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 250d
Probably not what GP was referring to, but Discord works totally fine in-browser without a client.
Less potential for vulns, telemetry, regressions, etc.
ammorok@fedia.io · 3 pts · 250d
If you are using PC, Check out Element. It does utilize Matrix, but that gives you the ability to self host if you wish. Voice and video works well enough for me and my friends to stream to the room and was a suitable replacement for Discord.
zimno@piefed.social · -2 pts · 250d
Today I deleted my Discord account, I was using it in Firefox or Webcord wrapper. I can't imagine installing this type of software on my computer. It's scanning your computer by default to check what programs are you using or what games are you playing and it's properiaty, commercial app.
You never know how the data they collect about you will be used. It's a great tool for censorship, and Discord has good communication with the authorities. Despite this, they still have no problem with violence in the form of groups encouraging teenagers to self-harm, Nazis, and gore or pornographic content of a pedophilic or zoophilic nature. Unfortunately, as a minor, I came across a lot of this type of content there completely by accident. A large, centralized, unencrypted messenger allows for accurate tracking or complete destruction of a user's history. This is important for political oppression, falsification, and evidence gathering.
Most people are too lazy to change anything in their lives, even their messenger, out of concern for their privacy and security. And there are alternatives, but they won't even be able to emerge because of this majority. It's not that all these messengers are free and we all pay dearly for them, but not with our own money. Money is not as valuable as power and the right to one's identity.
If Matrix had as much money as Discord (where there are much better freedom-oriented alternatives to Discord), it would probably allow for the same simplicity as Discord. Unfortunately, ethical activity plays a secondary role for us. It's the same with clothing—it's easier to get clothes that are cheaply made in poor countries by exploiting children than clothes that are made locally with respect for workers' rights.
I am not providing alternatives, because if someone does not understand this and is too lazy to look for them themselves, they should not clutter up spaces where valuable people gather.
spartanatreyu@programming.dev · 3 pts · 250d
This is exactly why I like Discord.
If I'm online and not playing a game, I want my friends to see that I'm online so they can message me.
If I'm playing a game, I want my friends to know I am playing that game.
If it's a multiplayer game, they can join in.
If it's a single player campaign focused game, they know I won't be keen to play a multiplayer game right now, but they can still message me if something big and spontaneous is happening.
If I don't want to be contacted at all, I close discord.
piccolo@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 250d
Thats what steam is for.
spartanatreyu@programming.dev · 2 pts · 250d
What about non-steam games or discord game invites?
piccolo@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 250d
You can launch non-steam games through steam. As for discord game invites... dunno, litterally never use that.
zimno@piefed.social · 2 pts · 249d
I love that feature too! But I think it's really dangerous in the current implementation when you can't be sure what data they're taking from your computer.
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 250d
Ditched mine years ago. I'm worried about the idiots who were too dumb to leave who are gonna die to this shit, who might already be getting got for things like being queer in Saudi Arabia.
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -4 pts · 250d
Why do you think 'don't install this shit on your computer' is a concern?
And I guess if you can't fuck with matrix, idk; fucking do without? Might just be there's no safe easy-for-idiots way to get the thing you want right now. Shit happens.
mereo@piefed.ca · 9 pts · 250d
As the other said, what are the alternatives? All my gaming friends are on Discord. I tried to make them switch to another platform but they won't budge. I'm stuck with discord.
Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 249d
In my country literally everyone still uses Facebook and Messenger for that simple reason: everyone they know uses it.
I've always been against Discord and I miss the Mumble+IRC days, but Discord is just the default now and it's not going away
Emi@ani.social · 1 pts · 250d
Why?/what are the alternatives?
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · -9 pts · 250d
A bunch but Discord is a website so if you installed anything then it’s spyware.
BassTurd@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 250d
Unfortunately it's a necessary evil if you want voice and video chat. I think people and companies that use it professionally for customer support and similar are making a terrible choice. If there were a competing product that was as simple to setup and had even the most basic voice and chat features without the extra discord bloat, I'd jump ship, but that's not really an option right now.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 249d
they can do all that but they can't make a simple apt repository?
data1701d@startrek.website · 2 pts · 248d
At least they provide an official Flatpak now.
Also, this isn't an official repository, but https://github.com/palfrey/discord-apt works pretty good for me. If you look at the source code for the fetching script and the Github Workflows, you can see that they just pull directly from the Discord website, and comparing file hashes further confirms it. I no longer use it since the official Flatpak is an option now, but it's still useful.