In best matched years, the efficacy is about 60%, this year, it will be about 40%.
The problem is all the lessons of hygeine and masking from 2020-2022 are gone, mostly driven by teachers who refuse to mask but have ALL been out >1 week with flu at my kid's high school.
Ontario is cold Florida. We approach public health with denial now.
Even in worst matched seasons, there is protection. But, we encourage people to walk around sick without masks and not even wash their hands after going to the toilet any more. We used to teach hygiene in schools, we even had a U of T school of hygiene we shut down.
Why are you yelling at CBC journalists? They make this very clear in this very article:
The latest available vaccine effectiveness estimates show the current shot is up to 75 per cent effective at preventing hospital visits in children aged two to 17 years, and 30 to 40 per cent effective in adults, said the WHO.
No guessing is involved. They base the Northern vax on the prevalent strains from the Southern hemisphere (and vice versa). Unfortunately a nasty varient started making the rounds shortly after the Northern vax was in production.
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swelter_spark@reddthat.com · 7 pts · 233d
Further down in the article it mentions that the spike in infections is partly due to a flu type that wasn't targeted by this year's vaccine.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 233d
In best matched years, the efficacy is about 60%, this year, it will be about 40%.
The problem is all the lessons of hygeine and masking from 2020-2022 are gone, mostly driven by teachers who refuse to mask but have ALL been out >1 week with flu at my kid's high school.
Ontario is cold Florida. We approach public health with denial now.
velindora@lemmy.cafe · -7 pts · 233d
Yawn. Vaccinate.
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 233d
Sadly, they did not get the vaccine right this year, and it doesn’t offer much protection.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 233d
Says who? a fucking journalism grad at CBC?
Even in worst matched seasons, there is protection. But, we encourage people to walk around sick without masks and not even wash their hands after going to the toilet any more. We used to teach hygiene in schools, we even had a U of T school of hygiene we shut down.
cv_octavio@piefed.ca · 6 pts · 233d
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 233d
In what world? How about the real world?
https://www.cdc.gov/clean-hands/data-research/facts-stats/index.html
19% even "wash", but 1 in 20 properly wash.
Historically, parents only vaccinate kids in Ontario at about 28% -you think these shit 72% parents are teaching how to properly wash hands?
We shut down the School of Hygiene in 1975.
cv_octavio@piefed.ca · 4 pts · 233d
honc@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 232d
Why are you yelling at CBC journalists? They make this very clear in this very article:
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · -1 pts · 233d
19% effectiveness does not offer much protection.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 233d
19-0 = 19, please, someone check my math.
velindora@lemmy.cafe · 3 pts · 233d
The vaccine offers protection. That’s how vaccines work.
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 233d
Only if they guess the correct strains for the year, which they have to do about 6 months in advance.
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 233d
No guessing is involved. They base the Northern vax on the prevalent strains from the Southern hemisphere (and vice versa). Unfortunately a nasty varient started making the rounds shortly after the Northern vax was in production.
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 233d
Yup, exactly.
howrar@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 232d
An educated guess is still technically a guess
velindora@lemmy.cafe · 0 pts · 233d
If only there was data to predict it, and scientists who are qualified to make vaccines.
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 233d
What does that have to do with it? Doesn’t mean they are perfect and get it right every year.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 233d
The US stopped this data analysis in 2025. They swim in shit instead.
velindora@lemmy.cafe · 2 pts · 233d
Have the day you vaccinated for.
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 233d
Of course I have my vax. Just don’t have high hope for much protection this year.
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 233d
velindora@lemmy.cafe · 4 pts · 233d
You can vaccinate children.
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 233d
Ofc you can. I was responding to the snark from velindora, not saying that kids can't be vaxxed.
velindora@lemmy.cafe · 0 pts · 233d
That is my username. What are you talking about?? I never said kids could not be vaccinated
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 233d
Neither did I. I simply quoted the article to you in response to your 'yawn' ... as in kids are dying from this flu and your comment was unwarranted.
velindora@lemmy.cafe · -1 pts · 233d
No, it’s perfectly fine to enjoy the leopards. Take your thoughts and prayers elsewhere.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · -3 pts · 233d
Not in hick Ontario.
velindora@lemmy.cafe · 1 pts · 233d
It’s a law that children cannot be vaccinated in Ontario?
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 233d
Not when parents are using Facebook for advice. To give you an idea of how ignorant this province is, only 28% get a free vaccine for children, and only 37% of children with chronic illness where flu could kill them.
Florida ain't got nuthin on Ontario.