Kamala is a former California AG so I have to think that she still functions like a prosecutor. I agree that’s some wishful ass-thinking though. Democrats have been incredibly disappointing for far too long now. I’m not sure if I posted it as hopium or just a possible alternative interpretation.
Probably reveals pretty much the opposite of what the party leadership is saying.
DNC Leaders: "We lost because we tried to bring trans and immigrants etc etc into the tent"
Reality: "We lost because were were nearly indistinguishable from our opposition and abandoned any policy that might benefit marginalized people at the expense of our donors."
Maybe not indistinguishable, but did a pretty poor job of presenting it as a real and meaningful choice. Tried to run a more or less "normal" campaign when the stakes were anything but. Didn't acknowledge the failings and frustrations that had rightly been leveled at the Biden administration. Tried to run Kamala as a "Stay the course" candidate instead of a "Not happy with how things are going? Time for change!" candidate. Didn't do a good job of being clearly FOR something of great value to the voter rather than just being defined by not being Trump.
Mind you, I'm fully in the camp of voting like your life depends on it, every chance you get, but a political party can't learn from their failures if they don't honestly acknowledge them first.
Remember her earliest speeches? They were very progressive. Something between 2-3 speeches were and after that you could tell she was "talked to" by someone. I wonder what that conversation was like.
Ken Martin, the DNC chair who previously said he would publicly release a review of the 2024 election, said in a statement that the review was complete and that the committee was “already putting our learnings into motion”.
So basically the results of the autopsy are damning to Ken Martin and his current ongoing strategy.
The party was already implementing plans to address some of the issues raised, and releasing a retrospective report would take time and focus away from winning going forward, the official said.
There is nothing to see here, move along, move along.
probably cuz it found that supporting Israel's actions in Palestine uncritically cost a lot of voters, as did not taking a stance on cannabis and student loans
I mean, if you fucked up at work and the result was an absolutely historic scale of devastation to the company as a whole because your group fucked up a critical project, would you want a public detailed report about how it all happened?
When I fuck up, I'm expected to own up to it and learn from my mistakes. Trying to shift blame, withhold details or otherwise bullshit people who know I fucked up tends to piss them off even more. Refusing to accept accountability for your fuck ups is a cowardly move in any context.
If the autopsy didn't conclude "we should stop ignoring what the voter base wants and doing whatever the hell we want instead," then it reached the wrong conclusions. Either the DNC got the autopsy wrong or they're ignoring their own findings.
They don't want to hear that the need to help the 350 million people that actually do everything that makes the country work instead of ignoring them and working for 2 dozen guys on wall street
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unmagical@lemmy.ml · 28 pts · 270d
Why? Does it make them look bad (totally unlike how they look already)?
aarch0x40@piefed.social · 14 pts · 270d
It is more likely that it includes accusations that are indictable and they don’t want to waste the opportunity
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 270d
aarch0x40@piefed.social · 4 pts · 270d
Kamala is a former California AG so I have to think that she still functions like a prosecutor. I agree that’s some wishful ass-thinking though. Democrats have been incredibly disappointing for far too long now. I’m not sure if I posted it as hopium or just a possible alternative interpretation.
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 270d
Loooool
Protoknuckles@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 270d
Pleeeeeeease be it
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 25 pts · 270d
Probably reveals pretty much the opposite of what the party leadership is saying.
DNC Leaders: "We lost because we tried to bring trans and immigrants etc etc into the tent"
Reality: "We lost because were were nearly indistinguishable from our opposition and abandoned any policy that might benefit marginalized people at the expense of our donors."
PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social · 15 pts · 270d
I'm all for blaming the Democratic leadership for their dog shit ness but let's not get carried away lmao
GraniteM@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 270d
Maybe not indistinguishable, but did a pretty poor job of presenting it as a real and meaningful choice. Tried to run a more or less "normal" campaign when the stakes were anything but. Didn't acknowledge the failings and frustrations that had rightly been leveled at the Biden administration. Tried to run Kamala as a "Stay the course" candidate instead of a "Not happy with how things are going? Time for change!" candidate. Didn't do a good job of being clearly FOR something of great value to the voter rather than just being defined by not being Trump.
Mind you, I'm fully in the camp of voting like your life depends on it, every chance you get, but a political party can't learn from their failures if they don't honestly acknowledge them first.
Quexotic@infosec.pub · 4 pts · 270d
Remember her earliest speeches? They were very progressive. Something between 2-3 speeches were and after that you could tell she was "talked to" by someone. I wonder what that conversation was like.
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 4 pts · 270d
Not everyone values issues the same way you do.
njm1314@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 270d
So basically the results of the autopsy are damning to Ken Martin and his current ongoing strategy.
kata1yst@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 270d
Ken was elected in 2025, and was seen as a reformist firebrand outsider.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Martin?wprov=sfla1
He did amazing things paving the way for the modern leftist politicians in Minnesota.
Deceptichum@quokk.au · 1 pts · 270d
njm1314@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 270d
Yes?
Not sure why thats relevant.
OpenStars@piefed.social · 12 pts · 270d
There is nothing to see here, move along, move along.
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 270d
Not another dime to the DNC.
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 270d
probably cuz it found that supporting Israel's actions in Palestine uncritically cost a lot of voters, as did not taking a stance on cannabis and student loans
BigBenis@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 270d
Cowards
PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social · 6 pts · 270d
I mean, if you fucked up at work and the result was an absolutely historic scale of devastation to the company as a whole because your group fucked up a critical project, would you want a public detailed report about how it all happened?
BigBenis@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 270d
When I fuck up, I'm expected to own up to it and learn from my mistakes. Trying to shift blame, withhold details or otherwise bullshit people who know I fucked up tends to piss them off even more. Refusing to accept accountability for your fuck ups is a cowardly move in any context.
butwhyishischinabook@piefed.social · 8 pts · 270d
If the autopsy didn't conclude "we should stop ignoring what the voter base wants and doing whatever the hell we want instead," then it reached the wrong conclusions. Either the DNC got the autopsy wrong or they're ignoring their own findings.
TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 270d
They don't want to hear that the need to help the 350 million people that actually do everything that makes the country work instead of ignoring them and working for 2 dozen guys on wall street
the_q@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 270d
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 270d
Well that’s some bullshit. One of you drunks leak it to the fediverse already.