cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/40568658
I recently came across three separate platforms:
Qortal: https://qortal.org/
ZeroNet: https://zeronet.io/
and
Plebbit: https://plebbit.com/
That all claim to be completely decentralized.
There's even talk about how Plebbit is more decentralized than the Fediverse, because the Fediverse is based off of instances.
https://www.reddit.com/r/javascript/s/0ynXzrD5H6
And I was curious, would such a setup work better for the Fediverse, or is it basically just a huge scam/waste of time and money?
7 Comments
deadsuperhero@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 233d
Nope! The main thing going for a distributed ledger would be global consistency, but there are some very negative downsides. It's slow, scales poorly, puts a massive burden on admins operating instances, and the blocks would be effectively immutable...meaning that if the contents of each activity were fully nested inside of a block, edits or deletions would be impossible. We already see problems with CSAM showing up in various blockchains, and a Fediverse blockchain used for social purposes would be no different.
It's just not the right tool for the job when it comes to social networks. There were a few early experiments in this area, such as Twister, which tried to build a Twitter clone on top of a blockchain using DHT. It has a huge list of limitations, though, and development stopped around 2020.
Cochise@lemmy.eco.br · 10 pts · 233d
No.
To have a decentralised network, you need a lot of servers storing some data and a access algorithm thar searches for the pieces. There are a lot of hard problems:
The architecture is good for storing and distributing many copies of a few very popular contents (and shines in torrent) but is bad for storing, searching for, and accessing many unpopular and mildly popular contents.
6nk06@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 233d
Better how?
atrielienz@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 233d
Can I ask what you're planning to use block chain for? To verify each account? Or to federate instances?
lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org · 6 pts · 233d
The blockchain is always a scam.
gtr@programming.dev · 5 pts · 233d
I'm totally in favor of a fully distributed solution! But you don't need a ledger for it, neither centralized nor distributed. A simple pub-sub + DHT, torrent style, should be enough.
Blockchain is the wrong solution for that problem.
Check out Nostr, its's pretty much what we need.
wizard@lemmynsfw.com · 5 pts · 233d
Blockchain does not mean decentralized. There are completely centralized blockchains, and there are completely decentralized systems without blockchains (like Tor).
Centralization is as much a human problem as it is technical, that's why everyone joins mastodon.social instead of looking for a smaller instance or spinning up their own.
As for a more decentralized Fediverse, I think https://holos.social/ is a super interesting idea.