Woof. They drive really well, but the market just isn't ready for a $60K+ fast car.
Electric Dodge Chargers Now On Sale for Less Than Half of MSRP, or $28,935
https://fuelarc.com/evs/electric-dodge-chargers-now-on-sale-for-less-than-half-of-msrp-or-28935/
25 Comments
tyler@programming.dev · 39 pts · 227d
lol they’re notoriously not a good car. Have you seen the reviews of them? Has nothing to do with being a 60k fast car. The ioniq 5 is 60k and is selling like hot cakes. Teslas sold for years at that price point.
KayLeadfoot@fedia.io · 3 pts · 226d
tyler@programming.dev · 3 pts · 225d
Ioniq 5 is $65k for the fully specced version. How do I know? I own one. Nobody is buying base model anything.
Once again, nobody is buying base spec cars, especially not teslas, who’s only selling points are long range (not available in base spec) and ‘self driving’ (once again not available in base spec)
Not really any good response for the last one, besides watch a video and decide for yourself. Articles might say something is good but then a video shows an entirely different story.
KayLeadfoot@fedia.io · -1 pts · 225d
Most folks don't buy self-driving anything. It's about 12% for Tesla, and Tesla probably has the highest uptake rate: https://carbuzz.com/12-percent-tesla-owners-choose-full-self-driving/
For buying the base spec cars, Troy Teslike reports on that (i know more about Tesla off the top of my head, been doing research, their new average sale price has been cratering), and Tesla's most popular models are the cheap ones. That's important to folks like me because it kills profitability and so is newsworthy.
No judgement, that's just the cards as they lay. I like knowing things, I'm a bit "special" that way, particularly for statistics.
Yeah, it's a matter of taste on this vehicle being nice. Honestly? I'd get a lightly used Ioniq 6 for the same price, I like the Charger body shape, but if it's equally fast, I think the 6 will be more reliable.
pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip · 39 pts · 227d
The news to me is that Dodge can still sell things for more than $6k?
I guess there's always people who haven't, you know...owned anything made by Dodge yet..
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 18 pts · 227d
Some people are just a glutton for punishment.
rafoix@lemmy.zip · 30 pts · 227d
No Stellantis vehicle is worth $60,000. They should be $20,000 at the dealer with the other $40,000 being reserved for repairs needed in the first 5 years.
taiyang@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 227d
The shitheads who drive chargers in my area are 100% not the EV demographic. They're more the "aftermarket exhaust mods, wake everyone up at 3am" type of folk.
massive_bereavement@fedia.io · 12 pts · 227d
Electric Dodge Charger sounds like an oxymoron or a regretful purchase that fried your ipad.
AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 23 pts · 227d
I've spent 2x$60k on 2x EVs in the last year.
I used to own a Model S Plaid, but got rid of it for obvious reasons.
It isn't that the market isn't ready for a fast EV or a nice EV...it's that this one is a Dodge Charger EV.
zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com · 2 pts · 226d
The people who want electric cars don't want American cars
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 22 pts · 227d
BMW sells lots of i4, the market is ready for a GOOD $60k fast car, just not something built by…… Stellantis (shudder)
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 227d
Can confirm. I drive an i4 M50, and I see a lot of them around.
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 227d
Nice choice! I keep watching for a well priced trade in to come in.
artyom@piefed.social · 8 pts · 227d
This is a wild singular outlier and probably a pricing error. Lazy writing. Looks like most go for 40-60k, which there are still good deals to be had there as well.
ptc075@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 227d
I was thinking the same, so did a search here. At my local dealer, the cheapest is still $55K. But there's a dealer within an hour who has them for $30-$35K. So, maybe the message hasn't gotten out yet? Seems to be some truth to it.
KayLeadfoot@fedia.io · 3 pts · 227d
I count 9 at or below 30K, and the 10th is 31K.
https://visor.vin/search/listings?make=Dodge&model=Charger&agnostic=false&fuel_type=Full+Electric&sort=cheapest
artyom@piefed.social · 3 pts · 227d
Those are all inaccurate if you actually look at the source site.
KayLeadfoot@fedia.io · 0 pts · 227d
You're using a lot of weasel words for somebody who called me the lazy writer :)
What percent are accurate, do you reckon? Should I update my headline to show multiple EV Chargers for sale at less than 50% of their MSRP, or just the one?
artyom@piefed.social · 5 pts · 227d
When you say "Electric chargers" you give the impression that all, or even a majority, are for sale at that price. When in reality it's 1 or 2 in the entire nation.
Maybe try "Charger EVs for sale in the 30s and below", or similar.
E: looks like you got the same feedback on Reddit.
KayLeadfoot@fedia.io · 1 pts · 226d
You seem to be misunderstanding the difference between MSRP and sales price.
MSRP is centrally or nationally set. Sales price is locally set.
Re-read the headline, you would have to misread what I actually wrote to get the understanding that you got out of it.
artyom@piefed.social · 2 pts · 226d
I understand perfectly but I don't know what any of that has to do with this conversation. MSRP is in the $70s, which no one is talking about.
recursive_recursion@piefed.ca · 6 pts · 227d
You dodge when you see a Dodge, this ain't a good deal.
Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 227d
Batteries sold separately?
subignition@fedia.io · 3 pts · 227d
The giant "section heading" every 5-6 sentences is odd. Did a human really write this?