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c/hackernews · by haxor@derp.foo · 3y

ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awful It Is

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/08/isps-should-not-police-online-speech-no-matter-how-awful-it

There is a discussion on Hacker News, but feel free to comment here as well.

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5 Comments

girl@discuss.online · 3 pts · 3y (4 replies)

Well, someone needs to police it. Remember, freedom of speech just means you can’t be thrown in jail for screaming “fuck the president”, it doesn’t mean there will be no social consequences for your words.

Edit: alright, I’m an asshole. I jumped in with a barely relevant comment during a bathroom break 🤷‍♀️ I agree that ISPs should not be responsible for this, though I am in support of censorship until the government actually starts enforcing online hate speech laws. Someone else should make that decision though, not a corporation.

nottheengineer@feddit.de · 2 pts · 3y (2 replies)

Did you read the article?

bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 3y

Did you read the article?

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Seriously, it is a really good take on the problem. Tier 1 ISP shouldn't have that kind of say in how traffic flows.

girl@discuss.online · 2 pts · 3y

I didn’t disagree with the article, I was adding additional input.

The cops and the courts should be working to protect the victims of KF and go after the perpetrators with every legal tool at their disposal. We should be giving them the resources and societal mandate to do so. Solid enforcement of existing laws is something that has been sorely lacking for harassment and abuse online, and it’s one of the reasons people turn to censorship strategies. Finally, we should enact strong data privacy laws that target, among others, the data brokers whose services help enable doxxing.

As it states, no one is enforcing the laws. There is almost no one actually going after online hate speech, and no one steps in until someone gets killed. So law enforcement needs to start policing these things. Until then, censorship is the solution to these issues, though I agree that ISPs should not be the ones responsible.

lvxferre@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 3y
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nottheengineer@feddit.de · 1 pts · 3y

Good take from the EFF as usual. They made it very clear that principles should stand above the issue at hand and I fully agree with that.