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c/flippanarchy · by TherapyGary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 210d

Did he really say this

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A posterized image of Mikhail Bakunin with an overlaid edited quote which reads, "Do you want to make it impossible for anyone to oppress his fellow-man? Then make sure [to vote blue no matter who!!]"
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9 Comments

y0kai@anarchist.nexus · 19 pts · 210d

yes, he was a huge supporter of representative democracy, and capitalist republics in general

jazz_cigarette@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 18 pts · 210d

No but he is on record saying that this election will be the most important one ever.

PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org · 13 pts · 210d

Mikhail Bak-to-work 😆

Prunebutt@slrpnk.net · 11 pts · 210d (1 reply)

Loved his TED talk on this. /j

optissima@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 210d

This one was okay, but the one about how his ideas are based in Enlightment reasoning blew me away. A primitivist of his own time 🙂‍↕️

technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 210d

Yeah, he's been spamming me for months, asking for money, and saying all kinds of things like this.

OldSageRick@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 210d (1 reply)

Its very funny if you live in german speaking countries, here blue are the right (or rather alt-right) parties

Digit@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 208d

In UK too, the establishtment more right-wing party.

What's it in Russia? [where Bakunin's from]

Digit@lemmy.wtf · 2 pts · 208d

LOL/cry.

Do you want to make it impossible for anyone to oppress his fellow-man? Then make sure that no one shall possess power.

And some more Bakunin quotes on imbalance of power / power over others / oppression / statism, for more context...

If you took the most ardent revolutionary, vested him in absolute power, within a year he would be worse than the Tsar himself.

Powerful states can maintain themselves only by crime, little states are virtuous only by weakness.

He who is given power will inevitably become an oppressor and exploiter of society.

Power corrupts those who exercise it as much as those who are forced to obey it.

The instinct to command others, in its primitive essence, is a carnivorous, altogether bestial and savage instinct. Under the influence of the mental development of man, it takes on a somewhat more ideal form and becomes somewhat ennobled, presenting itself as the instrument of reason and the devoted servant of that abstraction, or political fiction, which is called the public good. But in its essence it remains just as baneful, and it becomes even more so when, with the application of science, it extends its scope and intensifies the power of its action. If there is a devil in history, it is this power principle.

"Class", "power", "state", are three inseparable terms, one of which presupposes the other two.

The oppression of one is the oppression of all, and we cannot violate the liberty of one being without violating the freedom of all of us.

And my fave:

We are convinced that liberty without socialism is privilege, injustice; and that socialism without liberty is slavery and brutality.

/autism