Here's a shower thought I had over how stupid this situation is: Had she actually tried to run him over, there is a chance she would still be alive today.
Here's another shower thought: Some say that if the ICE agent feared for his life his actions are justified. But nobody seem to care that the soccer mom who was just coming back from dropping her kid to school was also fearing for her life when some ICE officer aggressively tried to open her car door. And also why should we tolerate ICE agents carelessly creating avoidable situations where innocent bystanders fear for their life to begin with? Sometimes those situations are downright created purposefully to give themselves a pretext power trip over people, even up to shooting someone and it looks like it could be the case there.
Yes, it's all bad faith arguments to try to have an appearance of legitimacy. The simple truth is they think they have every right to murder anyone who doesn't support them.
Also, Republicans have advocated that drivers should be able to run over protestors blocking roads. Even if she did hit him, I think running over a masked armed man in the road should be even more justifiable than running over protestors.
He literally walked in front of her car, basic training would have told him that is the worst thing you can do when attempting to deal with a driver. Someone needs to take these fucks out.
He was previously dragged by a car during a similar scenario like a month ago. That's how he was identified. He's clearly doing it on purpose just to give himself cover/"justification" to do this. And someone let this Dipshit swap out his Taser for a gun.
I think he may have been calling the wife that. She was interacting with him outside the car and I think it pissed him off so he killed the driver to get at the wife.
She was previously parallel to the curb until asked to move, she moves sideways into the street and then ice begins to yell at her, and the video begins.
If you're on a phone, there's a "X" hidden way up in the top right. I don't have an account and I was able to watch it. They just make it seem like you have to sign up or get the app first.
You mean the guy so not in the path of the vehicle that he felt comfortable promoting the vehicle to "uncontrolled" before casually walking away as if nothing had happened wasn't actually run over?
And he made sure to record the entire time, I can't tell if he recorded her after but when he could be seen walking away after checking her body his camera was still open on his phone, I wouldn't doubt he was itching to get footage of himself murdering a woman.
Do guns still have safties? Was that ever a real thing? I've only fired like 8 guns but not a single had a "safety".
Sorry, what i mean by this is, if you draw and itvis likely ready to fire. Dawing a weapon to then have to pull or push a switch is not a thing I've witnessed.
Wouldn't there be injuries if he was run over? Also, how can you be on your phone and doing this job, which could see a gun in your other hand?! That should count against him.
The objective fact says that. Stop acting like these appeals to authority are valid arguments. All that does is allow propagandists to argue the other side and claim to be an authority.
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jontree255@lemmy.world · 140 pts · 213d
Anyone who watched the video knows that.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 213d
Exactly. Fuck you NBC News.
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · -9 pts · 213d
For agreeing with you?
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 33 pts · 213d
For cowardly framing the obvious objective reality as a contestable claim.
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 209d
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 208d
straight up censorship
lolrightythen@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 213d
*consumable claim?
DaddleDew@lemmy.world · 111 pts · 213d
Here's a shower thought I had over how stupid this situation is: Had she actually tried to run him over, there is a chance she would still be alive today.
Here's another shower thought: Some say that if the ICE agent feared for his life his actions are justified. But nobody seem to care that the soccer mom who was just coming back from dropping her kid to school was also fearing for her life when some ICE officer aggressively tried to open her car door. And also why should we tolerate ICE agents carelessly creating avoidable situations where innocent bystanders fear for their life to begin with? Sometimes those situations are downright created purposefully to give themselves a pretext power trip over people, even up to shooting someone and it looks like it could be the case there.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 61 pts · 213d
Yes, it's all bad faith arguments to try to have an appearance of legitimacy. The simple truth is they think they have every right to murder anyone who doesn't support them.
edible_funk@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 213d
So far they're right.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 26 pts · 213d
No, they're not. They can get away with it, yes, but they absolutely have no right.
almost1337@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 213d
For all practical matters, the rule of law in the US has been suspended in favor of the rule of force.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 212d
Absolutely. But it's illegitimate nonetheless. They have neither the legal nor moral right to murder people, only the means to get away with it.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 212d
Being right about something and having rights are two different things.
anon_8675309@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 213d
After seeing HIS video, I think he did it because her wife pissed him off.
Not blaming the wife at all so don’t misunderstand.
dan1101@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 213d
Also, Republicans have advocated that drivers should be able to run over protestors blocking roads. Even if she did hit him, I think running over a masked armed man in the road should be even more justifiable than running over protestors.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 213d
You're absolutely spot on at all points and apparently take quite long showers 😁
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 79 pts · 213d
New video that appears to have been captured by the shooter himself (who can be seen holding a phone in other videos when he shoots her):
https://www.instagram.com/reels/DTTLLYekf-W/
This is unambiguous murder.
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 59 pts · 213d
Omg, her last words were "I'm not mad at you"
He literally walked in front of her car, basic training would have told him that is the worst thing you can do when attempting to deal with a driver. Someone needs to take these fucks out.
snekerpimp@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 213d
You think any of these brown shirt chucklefucks have ANY training? Other than “this is the killy end of the gun.”
bus_factor@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 213d
That guy had worked for ICE for 10 years, should be enough to work some stuff out on his own.
Fondots@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 213d
De got dragged by a car he tried to break into to arrest someone less than a year ago, if that didn't teach them I don't think anything will.
lividweasel@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 213d
Learning from history? Not exactly on-brand with these guys.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 1 pts · 213d
I think he learned, just not what decency would have informed him.
MacEnvy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 213d
*CBP
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 213d
I'd be shocked if they could claim fifth-grade English on their résumé.
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 213d
That is sadly only slightly under the median level of adult reading literacy
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 213d
Pretty sure that’s not in the training either. They just hope they’ll figure that out and so far so good.
frongt@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 213d
I don't think they even get that
Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 213d
He's apparently been hit by a car before, so he seems incapable of learning a lesson. Clearly ICE isn't getting the brightest and best.
tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 213d
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 213d
He was previously dragged by a car during a similar scenario like a month ago. That's how he was identified. He's clearly doing it on purpose just to give himself cover/"justification" to do this. And someone let this Dipshit swap out his Taser for a gun.
boogiebored@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 213d
In the BBC video you can see how he shows her a phone, then suddenly it’s a gun.
Also after killing her does he say “fucking bitch”?
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 14 pts · 213d
Yes he does.
anon_8675309@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 213d
I think he may have been calling the wife that. She was interacting with him outside the car and I think it pissed him off so he killed the driver to get at the wife.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 213d
No it’s the gestapo fuck who grabbed her door handle to try and drag her out and beat her.
BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 213d
Can’t watch without an instagram account. Any alternatives anyone knows?
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 17 pts · 213d
Its hitting the mainstream now, better source in this article: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/ice-shooting-live-updates-minnesota-portland-shootings-fuel-protests-rcna253165
EDIT:
Also an Imgr and direct hosted link in this post: https://piefed.social/c/crazyfuckingvideos/p/1647174/nsfl-new-video-shows-ice-agent-pov-while-executing-renee-good
danc4498@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 213d
Can’t do piefed without an account?
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · 0 pts · 213d
I'd guess it's because it's marked NSFW
ptu@sopuli.xyz · -3 pts · 213d
Anyone know why she was parked sideways in the middle of the road?
monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 213d
Apparently trying to do a U-turn. That’s what I’ve heard. Seems plausible.
Zoot@reddthat.com · 6 pts · 213d
She was previously parallel to the curb until asked to move, she moves sideways into the street and then ice begins to yell at her, and the video begins.
ptu@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 212d
Thanks, I find it relates to the case but understand why people downvote the question. Obviously it was wrong to execute her on the spot like that.
Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 213d
If you're on a phone, there's a "X" hidden way up in the top right. I don't have an account and I was able to watch it. They just make it seem like you have to sign up or get the app first.
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 213d
You can, gotta hit hidden X, top right
unmagical@lemmy.ml · 58 pts · 213d
You mean the guy so not in the path of the vehicle that he felt comfortable promoting the vehicle to "uncontrolled" before casually walking away as if nothing had happened wasn't actually run over?
Whoever would have fucking guessed?
pageflight@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 213d
In so much danger he didn't even drop his phone.
crystalmerchant@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 213d
...that's because he wasn't run over
skozzii@lemmy.ca · 27 pts · 213d
I don't understand why his gun was drawn with safety off in the first place... he was looking to kill someone.
tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 213d
And he made sure to record the entire time, I can't tell if he recorded her after but when he could be seen walking away after checking her body his camera was still open on his phone, I wouldn't doubt he was itching to get footage of himself murdering a woman.
Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 212d
Do guns still have safties? Was that ever a real thing? I've only fired like 8 guns but not a single had a "safety".
Sorry, what i mean by this is, if you draw and itvis likely ready to fire. Dawing a weapon to then have to pull or push a switch is not a thing I've witnessed.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 212d
Some do. IDK about the one he was using though.
Bonesince1997@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 213d
Wouldn't there be injuries if he was run over? Also, how can you be on your phone and doing this job, which could see a gun in your other hand?! That should count against him.
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 213d
The objective fact says that. Stop acting like these appeals to authority are valid arguments. All that does is allow propagandists to argue the other side and claim to be an authority.
superkong47@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 213d
And he’s absolutely correct, that ice agent is a murderous cunt and he’ll get his
snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 213d
phoenixarise@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 213d
Not even close. He needs to be prosecuted to the fullest.
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 213d
Good job watching the videos