Majority of Americans Think Trump Military Plots Have ‘Gone Too Far’

https://www.thedailybeast.com/majority-of-americans-think-trump-military-plots-have-gone-too-far/

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DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 214d (7 replies)

The majority of Americans didn't vote for Trump. Such declarations mean nothing.

samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 214d (6 replies)

No, but a plurality did.

Ross_audio@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 214d (5 replies)

A plurality did not.

~77 milion out of 265 million - Trump

~75 million out of 265 million - Harris

~113 million out of 265 million - Nether

Getting a plurality of votes cast =/= a plurality of voters

It's how fascism has risen in the past as well. Chasing a minority of voters because they can win an election should be an alarm bell.

Every democratic system should engage a high turnout and require a majority, not just a plurality.

80% turnout should be a norm.

Personally I am in favour of mandatory voting, with the caveat that the bottom of the ballot should have a "none of the above" option. Australia gets a ~90% turnout.

Single Transferable Vote is the best election method as it avoids wasted votes in multi party democracies.

samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 214d (3 replies)

You're correct, a majority of people who voted voted for him, not a plurality. Way too many people, in any event!

Ross_audio@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 213d (1 reply)

Not even a majority of people who voted. A majority means >50%.

Trump received a plurality of voters who voted. Not a majority.

samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 213d

Thank you for the correction correction!

hesh@quokk.au · 2 pts · 214d

if we believe their counts

pivot_root@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 214d

Personally I am in favour of mandatory voting, with the caveat that the bottom of the ballot should have a "none of the above" option.

If the difference was only 20% and the result of an election wasn't determined by a metaphorical a coin flip, I would agree.

With the way it is right now, doubling the voting pool using uneducated or apathetic voters turns the entire thing into a game of exploiting psychological biases into creating uninformed votes. That also happens to already be the GOP's specialty.

It's bad now, but that could make it even worse.