The new car, which features the latest FIA safety innovations, is powered by a 3.4 litre turbo-charged Mecachrome engine, and includes some new features to accommodate the Aramco synthetic sustainable fuel that will be introduced in 2025
Why does no starter motor matter? It just adds weight
Synthetic fuel recycles carbon in the atmosphere, no new fossil fuel is required.
Peaky renewables are ideal candidates for making the required hydrogen
The carbon can be taken from a wide range of industrial byproducts
The Germans developed synthetic fuels from hydrogen and carbon, coal, in the 1930's to power their entire war effort, I think we can improve on that 100 years later.
A drop-in net zero fuel seems a better bet than expecting everyone to scrap their ICE cars and buy electric. I think there’s room for both
If you mean that this a stop-gap technology for existing ICE cars, true. If you mean that there should be room for new ICE cars hitting the roads: No. (Except maybe very specific niche uses for certain types of utility vehicles but not as popular road cars.)
Seb Vettel was at Goodwood this year running a synthetic drop-in fuel
Vettel stated on multiple occasions that he thinks that batteries are thrown away after an EV reached end of life. He completely ignores second life as stationary energy storage and recycling over and over again. He's a cool dude but he's also anything but an expert.
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Eideen@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3y
Sandly no hybrid or on-board starter.
BURN@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3y
Hybrid is going to add a ton of cost. I’ve got to imagine that was a consideration too
Eideen@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3y
Will more device add cost? Yes
Will it add 100%? No
Will it add 10%? Probably not.
Will it add <5%? Most likely.
A F2 car is 500 000$
bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 3y
Synthetic fuel though in 2025
Why does no starter motor matter? It just adds weight
Eideen@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3y
I think Synthetic fuel, is not the right way to go. And not pushing vendors to produce something sustainable.
Hybrid also offers "Boost", since a driver can be tactical about when to use it.
A lot of DNF is do to engine staling, and you are not allowed to get help for marshals.
bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 3y
A drop-in net zero fuel seems a better bet than expecting everyone to scrap their ICE cars and buy electric. I think there's room for both
Seb Vettel was at Goodwood this year running a synthetic drop-in fuel
https://www.goodwood.com/media-centre/four-time-formula-1-world-champion-sebastian-vettel-to-attend-the-festival-of-speed-in-a-sustainable-fuel-exclusive/
I'm not a big fan of boosts, I'd rather it was just pedal to the metal, but couldn't the same be achieved by boosting the turbo?
I'd have thought an electronic anti-stall like F1 would be better for performance than lugging around a starter motor
BobKerman3999@feddit.it · 3 pts · 3y
bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 3y
Well the target is net zero by 2030. You have to start where you are, not where you want to be.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/f1-report-progress-towards-2030-net-zero-target/10482248/
woelkchen@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 3y
"Net zero" is a scam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p8zAbFKpW0
bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 3y
I don't have time for video sources
Sequestration of carbon in soil, plus nuclear and renewable energy, plus hydrogen and other storage will do it.
https://climate.mit.edu/explainers/soil-based-carbon-sequestration
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bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 3y
That's why it's net zero.
We can capture co2 best in soil, not air
bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 3y
Good idea
https://lailluminator.com/2023/08/11/biden-administration-directs-1-2b-to-carbon-capture-projects-in-louisiana-texas/
BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com · 1 pts · 3y
Synthetic fuels still rejects CO2 in the atmosphere and most importantly it requires a ton of energy that doesn't make it sustainable in the long term https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/05/synthetic-gasoline-promises-neutral-emissions-but-the-math-doesnt-work/
bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 3y
Synthetic fuel recycles carbon in the atmosphere, no new fossil fuel is required.
Peaky renewables are ideal candidates for making the required hydrogen
The carbon can be taken from a wide range of industrial byproducts
The Germans developed synthetic fuels from hydrogen and carbon, coal, in the 1930's to power their entire war effort, I think we can improve on that 100 years later.
woelkchen@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
Best not to release that into the atmosphere.
bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 3y
Least worst options are all we have to transition off burning stuff that's actually really useful and infinitely recyclable.
woelkchen@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 3y
If you mean that this a stop-gap technology for existing ICE cars, true. If you mean that there should be room for new ICE cars hitting the roads: No. (Except maybe very specific niche uses for certain types of utility vehicles but not as popular road cars.)
Vettel stated on multiple occasions that he thinks that batteries are thrown away after an EV reached end of life. He completely ignores second life as stationary energy storage and recycling over and over again. He's a cool dude but he's also anything but an expert.
bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 3y
Yep, transition fuel and niche sports cars. V12s!
Olissipo@programming.dev · 3 pts · 3y
From the F1 channel, here it is in action (shakedown test).
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Durotar@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 3y
The rear wing looks unusual.
GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3y
Very similar to the new Super Formula rear wings. Which makes sense as they're both Dallara designed.
bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 3y
Is that a vertical exhaust that exits onto the rear wing?
oxideseven@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 3y
Just a support and where the DRS control is.
bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 3y
That makes much more sense lol
Jumi@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
Looks like a high downforce version
jneko@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 3y
wheelbase remains unchanged? the new one looks a bit longer to me